Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-18 Thread Hal Merritt
, 2010 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Benchmarking the IPL My management wants to benchmark the IPL process to see how long it will take at various levels of MIPS, MSUs, or whatever measurement criteria can be used. The purpose of this is to determine what the smallest z10 is we can

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, understood. "Check with your IBM representative," but financially I don't think you would see an IBM difference between warm and cold standby. So why not warm? - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Architect (Based in Singapore) STG Value Creation and Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets E-Mai

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Mon, 17 May 2010 09:38:27 -0500, Roland Schiradin wrote: >Tom, > >z/OS contains a cblock IPST pointed by ECVTIPST. > >This cblock contains information about the IPL time for various steps. >SHOWzOS display the data and there is also a IPCS command >but can't remember the name. > >Roland IPLD

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
ussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On >> Behalf Of Timothy Sipples >> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:26 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: Re: Benchmarking the IPL >> >> Tom, >> >> I'm a little confused by your question. Reading betw

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Tom, if you're running as a guest under z/vm, which some D/R vendors do, then you could cap it with a set share xxx absolute limithard. You didn't say if this was your box or a D/R Vendor box. If there's no z/VM, then LPAR weights is what you have to work with. I would definitely check out t

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Mon, 17 May 2010 07:41:33 -0500, Kelman, Tom wrote: >I saw your post talking about having an A01 warm standby with Z03 CBU. Tom, Thats the setup we are using: z9BC A01 at an alternate site. FWIW, our most recent IPLs of z/OS 1.11 on that machine took approxmiately 7 minutes from start t

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Kelman, Tom
t [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Benchmarking the IPL > > Tom, > > I'm a little confused by your question. Reading between the lines, you > seem > to be de

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
As a general statement (IPL is primarily I/O-bound), I agree, especially when considering only z/OS. But over time that's probably becoming less true. For example, WebSphere Application Server (on any platform) has certain CPU demands (which can include zAAPs) to get going, especially with certain

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tom, I'm a little confused by your question. Reading between the lines, you seem to be describing IBM's standard Capacity Backup (CBU) offering as part of your contract. CBU covers both actual disasters and a certain number of rehearsals over the contract period. There are no additional IBM softwa

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings, Generally speaking as I understand it CPU capacity is not a major factor in the duration of an IPL. It is mostly IO bound. Have you checked out the following somewhat recent IBM Redbook? System z Mean Time to Recovery Best Practices http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247816.htm

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I'm debating with management right now on the distance between our data centers being too close and I'm collecting information from anyone I can talk to about how far apart others have their's. I've worked at two shops, and they were at (potential) extremes. One had the primary just north of Tor

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jeffrey Deaver wrote: >I'm NOT looking for a mass response on data center distances. Only one mass response from me: If there is a fence between the two data centers, then they are too NEAR !!! ;-D Is it already Friday? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -

Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
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Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-14 Thread Kelman, Tom
My management wants to benchmark the IPL process to see how long it will take at various levels of MIPS, MSUs, or whatever measurement criteria can be used. The purpose of this is to determine what the smallest z10 is we can contract for our DR site that will IPL in a reasonable time frame. The