Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-05 Thread Ivan Warren
Timothy Sipples wrote: Netcraft.com says the site is Linux, and they tend to be rather accurate so I'd believe it. There are many reasons why query.exe might appear embedded in the URL of a Linux-hosted Web site. Some of those reasons have already been mentioned. Another possible explanation is

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
if http://bahn.hafas.de is Linux on z I doubt it, but when I see my neighbour again, I'll ask him. Might take a while, though. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Shane
Is there a way I can tell if http://bahn.hafas.de is Linux on z. Not really. Netcraft shows that it is running Linux, but trying to narrow it down beyond that is not particularly easy. O/S fingerprinting has several well known techniques. As, of course, has cloaking in response. Shane

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread John Giltner
Well if this is the same company, it seems that some of the company runs SUSE Linux on Intel/AMD and zSeries along with some other OS on zSeries. They don't mention what the other OS is. http://www.novell.com/success/deutsche_bahn.html The software that they use HAFAS is avaliable for IBM

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Sebastian Welton
More info: http://www.ibm.com/news/us/en/2005/02/2005_02_03.html http://www-01.ibm.com/webcasts/WCPGateway.wss? jadeAction=WEBCAST_LAUNCHPAGE_HANDLERWCP_WEBCAST_ID_KEY=071 0011 http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/7498.wss Seb.

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Jeff Beech-Garwood
You can try running Steve Gibson's IDSERVE from http://www.grc.com/id/idserve.htm. It interrogates and displays the http headers from the webserver. Jeff Beech-Garwood Systems Programmer Mainframe Network Support US Bank, EP-MN-02NS 651-962-3809 Clark F Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Post
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:40 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeff Beech-Garwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try running Steve Gibson's IDSERVE from http://www.grc.com/id/idserve.htm. It interrogates and displays the http headers from the webserver. You'll see something like this: $

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Post
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:31 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Giltner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if this is the same company, it seems that some of the company runs SUSE Linux on Intel/AMD and zSeries along with some other OS on zSeries. While Deutsche Bahn is one of our customers,

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Post
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:34 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- O/S fingerprinting has several well known techniques. As, of course, has cloaking in response. And this company has done their job in that area. Only two ports open on the system (or the

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
IDServe worked for me. This isn't clearly z/OS but one can infer. This is what I got back from our own book server which is hosted on Z. HTTP/1.1 200 Document follows Server: IBM HTTP Server/V5R3M0 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:29 GMT Connection: close Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Location:

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Mark Post
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IDServe worked for me. This isn't clearly z/OS but one can infer. This is what I got back from our own book server which is hosted on Z. HTTP/1.1 200 Document follows Server:

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread John Giltner
After re-looking at it, I don't think it is Linux at all. If you go http://bahn.hafas.de/ you will see you are re-directed to: http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/query.exe/d Notice the query.exe.I would say off hand that this is a Windows box. However, they could be running Wine under Linux or just

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Jack . Hamilton
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Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 4 Aug 2008 04:31:11 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Well if this is the same company, it seems that some of the company runs SUSE Linux on Intel/AMD and zSeries along with some other OS on zSeries. They don't mention what the other OS is.

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Shane
And this company has done their job in that area. Only two ports open on the system (or the firewalls front-ending the system more likely), so not enough information to get a good fingerprint. While personally frustrating, it's good to see someone out there can get it right. :) If they are

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-04 Thread Timothy Sipples
Netcraft.com says the site is Linux, and they tend to be rather accurate so I'd believe it. There are many reasons why query.exe might appear embedded in the URL of a Linux-hosted Web site. Some of those reasons have already been mentioned. Another possible explanation is Mono. - - - - - Timothy

Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-03 Thread Clark F Morris
Is there a way I can tell if http://bahn.hafas.de is Linux on z. If it is that says interesting things about whether z series might be able to handle google. The site does timetable lookup, trip planning, etc. and apparently is among the best for planning European trips.

Re: Can I tell whether a site is Linux on z

2008-08-03 Thread Mark Post
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:25 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clark F Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way I can tell if http://bahn.hafas.de is Linux on z. Not really. Netcraft shows that it is running Linux, but trying to narrow it down beyond that is not particularly easy.