Chris Craddock writes:
It is true that there are separate code bases for the z and non-z forms
of DB2, but as time passes most new functions are added to the open
platforms first and wherever possible that code is shared with DB2 on z.
I'm told that uni-directionality used to be true, but now
Rick Fochtman wrote:
[...]
IIRC, ?.0 release of anything was barely better than beta code and
usually got a massive load of fixes before anyone could really expect
any useful value. And the ?.8 release was the final release and
'functional stabilization' time.
Are talking about DB2 ?
Well,
On 3/15/2007 11:26 AM, R.S. wrote:
What can I do with XML in DB2 ? My application doesn't use it. I'm *not*
application programmer, so I won't change it.
You could, for example, tell RACF SMF Unload (IRRADU00) to produce an
XML-formatted output file instead of a flat file. This takes much
DB2 Version 9 for z/OS available March 16, 2007:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS207-041/ENUS207041.PDF
More stuff moves into 64-bit land, lots of XML goodies, increased zIIP
affinity (including stored procedures), rearchitected stored procedures
(for better performance), more
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 17:04 +1000, Timothy Sipples wrote:
DB2 Version 9 for z/OS available March 16, 2007:
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that IBM never releases a ?.0
of DB2 - 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, 8.1 now 9.1
Maybe they know no-one trusts a dot.zero release.
Then again, given what a
Then again, given what a f*ck-up 6.1 was with star-join ...
DB2 6.1 is AFH Shane.
Bob
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DB2 Version 9 for z/OS available March 16, 2007:
Thank you for your (unbiased) marketting pitch!
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Timothy Sipples wrote:
DB2 Version 9 for z/OS available March 16, 2007:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS207-041/ENUS207041.PDF
More stuff moves into 64-bit land, lots of XML goodies, increased zIIP
affinity [...]
So, more XLM, more Java more other modern stuff. How many
Wouldn't XML, Java, and more other modern stuff qualify as an add-on such
as you mentioned in the MVS Experience thread? Surely you're not saying,
Don't tell me about DB2 and your XML, we DON'T NEED IT! big grin
Jon
snip
So, more XLM, more Java more other modern stuff. How many
On the subject of dot.zero release, did you also notice that there is never
a dot.two release? Always new versions. New versions typically have a
price increase on the MLC, whilst new releases do not.
My experience has been that every even numbered version of DB2 has brought
with it significant
Jon Brock wrote:
Wouldn't XML, Java, and more other modern stuff qualify as an add-on such as you mentioned in the
MVS Experience thread? Surely you're not saying, Don't tell me about DB2 and your XML, we DON'T NEED
IT! big grin
Apples and oranges. zIIP, zAAP, IFL are for non-MVS
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:51 -0500, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the subject of dot.zero release, did you also notice that there is never
a dot.two release? Always new versions. New versions typically have a
price increase on the MLC, whilst new releases do not.
Unless you're on a
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:25:51 +0100, R.S. wrote:
Timothy Sipples wrote:
DB2 Version 9 for z/OS available March 16, 2007:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS207-041/ENUS207041.PDF
More stuff moves into 64-bit land, lots of XML goodies, increased zIIP
affinity [...]
So, more XLM,
I met with some IBM DB2 folks this week and they claim performance was a big
aim of V9 and that it buys back a lot of the CPU lost to V8. Not sure about
the memory, but with 64 bit addressing, I can't see it going down.
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On the subject of dot.zero release, did you also notice that there is
never
a dot.two release? Always new versions. New versions typically have
a
price increase on the MLC, whilst new releases do not.
I don't know that there's any particular rhyme or reason to the
numbering scheme. There
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:53:25 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote:
Then again, given what a f*ck-up 6.1 was with star-join ...
DB2 6.1 is AFH Shane.
AFH ??? I tried to look up this acronym, but I can only find stupid things
like:
American Fork and Hoe
Assassins for Hire
Australian Fluid Handling
or my
AFH ???
Ancient History
Bob Shannon
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Yes, but the DB2 on z/VM and z/VSE is not really DB2. :-)
There are 3 different code platforms for DB2 - I'm missing some details, so
someone please fill in the blanks...
- Non-mainframe platforms (Unix-type), which came from another data base
product
purchased by IBM a long time ago
Chris Craddock writes:
I don't know that there's any particular rhyme or reason to the numbering
scheme.
and I should agree in general. There is, however, one ROT that I have found
very useful: When a supplanting release i + 1 is announced before release i
is shipped, avoid release i.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ray Mullins
Yes, but the DB2 on z/VM and z/VSE is not really DB2. :-)
There are 3 different code platforms for DB2 - I'm missing
some details, so someone please fill in the blanks...
- Non-mainframe
On 15 Mar 2007 09:29:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On the subject of dot.zero release, did you also notice that there is
never
a dot.two release? Always new versions. New versions typically have
a
price increase on the MLC, whilst new releases do not.
I don't know that
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of john gilmore
Chris Craddock writes:
I don't know that there's any particular rhyme or reason to the
numbering scheme.
and I should agree in general. There is, however, one ROT
that I have found very useful:
Ah, SQL/DS - that's what I was thinking of. But I have seen DL/1 references
on the other platforms in casual conversation.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Chase, John
Sent: Thursday March 15 2007 13:40
To:
Ray,
The non-mainframe (ie DB2 LUW (Linux/Unix/Windows) is actually based on
the OS/2 Database Manager, which became DB2/2 then DB2 UDB, then UDB
became the standard moniker for all DB2 products, so LUW was used to
distinguish from z/OS. Also, in the non-MF world, 8.2 was Stinger,
and 9 is Viper.
There are 3 different code platforms for DB2 - I'm missing
some details, so someone please fill in the blanks...
- Non-mainframe platforms (Unix-type), which came from
another data base product
purchased by IBM a long time ago (Sequent?), and has some
code shared with
snip---
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that IBM never releases a ?.0
of DB2 - 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, 8.1 now 9.1
Maybe they know no-one trusts a dot.zero release.
Then again, given what a f*ck-up 6.1 was with star-join ...
I noticed our DBAs were out of
The IBM relational database that runs on VM VSE is called DB2, but it
is essentially the same codebase as SQL/DS. Unfortunately the product
hasn't changed much in the last 15 years or so.
Craddock, Chris wrote:
There are 3 different code platforms for DB2 - I'm missing
some details, so
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Sebastian Welton
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 V9 z/OS GA (Was: What to do with extra storage on new z9)
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:51 -0500,
CC wrote on 16/03/2007 02:29:12 AM:
There was a huge debacle with IMS V2.2 in the mid '80s
that cost several high-end customers $$ millions. V2.2 was going to be
the release that finally got the V1.3 customers to migrate and I suppose
it eventually was, but there were lots of bodies left in
Craddock, Chris wrote:
There are 3 different code platforms for DB2 - I'm missing
some details, so someone please fill in the blanks...
- Non-mainframe platforms (Unix-type), which came from
another data base product
purchased by IBM a long time ago (Sequent?), and has some
There was a huge debacle with IMS V2.2 in the mid '80s
that cost several high-end customers $$ millions.
Shane asks (rhetorically)
Let me guess - you were employed by one such customer at the time ...
Oh yeah. No prizes for guessing who.
CC
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