Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
I made an error.  I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is a spare NON SMS volume.  I am trying to backup volume PROM04.   Please excuse my error.  Thanks. From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:33:50 AM Subject: DFDSS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Don Imbriale
The control cards show INDDNAME(DISK1), but the JCL shows DD statement DASD1. Might that be part of the problem? - Don Imbriale On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: I made an error. I am trying to write the output to volume VE6C01 which is a spare NON SMS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
NON-SYSTEM MANAGED VO IEF272I DFDSS22 BACKUP - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. From: Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:49:28 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION The control cards show

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Greg Shirey
...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Don, I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists. I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN ZWAXPG

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
THERE ARE (5) CANDIDATE VOLUMES and 5 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE It appears that your storage group, ISTINT1, does not have enough space to accommodate your allocation. If someone called me in regards to this issue, I'd ask why they weren't directing

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
So I think the original poster wanted to go to a non-SMS volume - which I forgot when posting my last response. He's going to need to talk to someone who know the SMS routines in his shop. In my shop, I have a StorClas which can be used to push a normally SMS controlled DS outside of SMS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Don, I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists.  I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS is trapping the TAPE1 DSN if hlq ZWAXPG is 'trapped' by SMS, it means that your SMS ACS routines are coded in order to assign a SC and a SG (ISTINT1) to datasets whose hlq is ZWAXPG. Which doesn't mean it is bad. The

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Greg, I am trying to bypass SMS. This is why I am using these control cards

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote: Greg,   I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the job:   BYPASSACS(**) -   STORCLAS(NONSMS) -  Replace STORCLAS(NONSMS) with NSC NMC Norbert Friemel

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rowe
] On Behalf Of esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Don, I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists. I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
] On Behalf Of esmie moo [esmie_...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Don, I made the change to DISK1 however the problem persists. I tried using both HLQ ZWAXPG and SYS1 however for some reason SMS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
...@web.de To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:50 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:02:37 -0700, esmie moo wrote: Greg,   I am trying to bypass SMS.  This is why I am using these control cards in the job:   BYPASSACS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Walter, I need to write the output to a NON-SMS volume because it (volume) will be accessed by a test system which has different SMS rules. From: Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08:20 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
Scott,   Thanks for pointing that out.  You could be right.  I will look around for a jcl to by STORCLAS.  From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:35:59 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Esmie, Those control cards

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13:12 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Esmee, Are you positively, absolutely sure that volume VE6C01 is non-SMS managed?  How much space is on the volume? Can you post an updated JCL stream with the SYS1. output

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Darth Keller
Do you not have a storage admin of some kind? Someone responsible for writing the rules? A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the routines should easily resolve your question. SMS is intercepting your allocation based on it's rules re-assigning it. Someone coded it this way.

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/11/2011 09:52 AM, esmie moo wrote: Norbert, ... Here is my job: //BACKUP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' //*STEP01EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4096K,TIME=1440,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DISK1DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SHRPP4,DISP=SHR //TAPE1DD

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Do you not have a storage admin of some kind? Someone responsible for writing the rules? A 5 minute conversation with someone who knows the routines should easily resolve your question. SMS is intercepting

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
I am trying to track him down.  I looked at the SMS rules and there is a non-SMS storage class called STORCLAS=NONSMS in the ACS. From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:04:08 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
)) /*  I noticed that the NONSMS STORCLAS does not have a FILTLIST.  Maybe this could be the problem.  From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09:24 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION Esmee

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
. David O'Brien NIH Contractor -Original Message- From: esmie moo [mailto:esmie_...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION David,   I gave that a try however I got the same

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
I gave that a try however I got the same problem : Esmie, is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ? Wht happens if you give SYSALLDA instead of SYDA  on TAPE1 DD ?   Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread esmie moo
walter_marguc...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:13:08 PM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION I gave that a try however I got the same problem : Esmie, is the SYSDA esoteric name conflicting with SHRPP4 volume ? Wht happens if you give

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - BYPASS SMS - CORRECTION

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
 I don't know why SYSDA doesn't eventhough it is part of the esoteric using HCD, try to list all devices defined under the SYSDA esoteric name and see if SHRPP4 address is defined within this group. My guess is SHRPP4 is NOT defined to SYSDA.    Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS