Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread Jim Marshall
I have some IBM 3590 cartridges, J & K, which I need to ensure all the data is off of them. Does any know of any utility which will write binary zeros all down the cartridge until the end. I still have an old program from the US Air Force which would go down to the end two tapemarks, skip over them

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Marshall > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges > > > I have some IBM 3590 cartrid

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread R.S.
Jim Marshall wrote: I have some IBM 3590 cartridges, J & K, which I need to ensure all the data is off of them. Does any know of any utility which will write binary zeros all down the cartridge until the end. I still have an old program from the US Air Force which would go down to the end two ta

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:21 PM, R.S. wrote: SNIP 1. Do not degauss the tapes, unless you want to destroy them. 3590's have servo tracks tah would be destroyed. 2. 3590 drive can erase the tape without getting any datastream from host. This feature is exploited by tape mane

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: I always used IEBDG to create the binary zero blocks of data. I don't have the control cards handy but its a quick 5 minute read and 1 minute in ISPF. DSDOUTPUT=(ddname) FD NAME=DATA,FILL=X'FF',LENGTH=blksize CREATE NAME=(DATA),QUANTITY= Abend D37 is expect

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-05 Thread Russell Witt
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edward E. Jaffe Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges Ed Gould wrote: > I always used IEBDG to create the binary zero blocks of data. I don't > have the control cards handy but its a quic

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/05/2006 at 02:10 PM, Jim Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I suggested that we just degauss the cartridges and write a new >label. My SYSPROGs seem to think IBM maintains some cartridge >statistics internal to the cartridge itself and these would be >lost. I don

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Ed Gould wrote: I always used IEBDG to create the binary zero blocks of data. I don't have the control cards handy but its a quick 5 minute read and 1 minute in ISPF. Perhaps I'm missing something here, and I don't remember 3590 hardware details, but for my 3480 cartridges I've always used

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread willie bunter
If you mean erase data from the cartridges I would suggest to use FATS/FATAR if you have it. Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Gould wrote: >> I always used IEBDG to create the binary zero blocks of data. I don't >> have the control cards handy but its a quick 5 minute read

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:40:34 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Perhaps I'm missing something here, and I don't remember 3590 hardware >details, but for my 3480 cartridges I've always used EXCP with CCW >opcode X'97' - Data Security Erase, chained to one Erase Gap. Works like >a

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Bruce Black
The 3590 hardware details are only available from IBM through a licence, so if you have the licence you can find the opcodes in the documentation; otherwise, don't feel bad about not remembering! Luckily the 3590 accepts most of the ordinary CCWs (read, write, rewind, etc) that have been defin

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 6, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Mike Baldwin wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:40:34 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here, and I don't remember 3590 hardware details, but for my 3480 cartridges I've always used EXCP with CCW opcode X'97' - Data Secu

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 6, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: Ed Gould wrote: I always used IEBDG to create the binary zero blocks of data. I don't have the control cards handy but its a quick 5 minute read and 1 minute in ISPF. Perhaps I'm missing something here, and I don't remember 3590 ha

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-07 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:42:31 -0600, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So unless you have trhe doc you have really no way of knowing what an >erase really does? (does anyone know?) > >Does anyone know for say a 3490 ? Without getting philosophical, I do know this much: IBM 3490 Magnetic Tape Su

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-08 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: On Jan 6, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Mike Baldwin wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:40:34 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here, and I don't remember 3590 hardware details, but for my 3480 cartridges I've always used EXCP with CCW opcode

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-09 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Check out ERASETP works very nicely for 3480 or 3490 carts. //***FILE 432 is from Thierry Falissard of Paris, France, and * FILE 432 //* it contains a selection from things he has written* FILE 432 //* over many years. We hope you enjoy it. * FILE

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:39 AM, R.S. wrote: --SNIP-- Is it fair ? I don't know. In fact, it should be compared to other vendors' practice. Just my $0.02 -- R.S. OK I'll bite how do other vendors prices material like this, anyone? Ed ---

Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges

2006-01-15 Thread Russell Witt
Gould Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Erase IBM 3590 Cartridges On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:39 AM, R.S. wrote: --SNIP-- > > Is it fair ? I don't know. In fact, it should be compared to other > vendor