Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201002240949176433.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/24/2010 at 09:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Size doesn't matter? For example, consider X11, where the terms are widely misused. Likewise SMTP. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-26 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave I have client and server address spaces running in the same LPAR :) Among others, we run CICS MRO :)) In our shop CICS concurrently is a terminal server, a web service provider and requester, and a

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
Brazee Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question) On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-25 Thread George Henke
State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question) On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread McKown, John
Good point on the rename. I have a fuzzy recollection of a problem when the server is Windows. In UNIX, a RENAME will delete the new name if it already exists. IIRC, Windows gives a name in use error. But I could be misremembering. Oh, and if you just decide to delete before renaming, then

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:23 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Good point on the rename. I have a fuzzy recollection of a problem when the server is Windows. In UNIX, a RENAME will delete the new name if it already exists. IIRC, Windows gives a name in use error. But I could be misremembering. Oh,

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Paul Generally, one end of an FTP connection is called a server and the other is called a client. Please unconfuse me. I guess the confusion arises because any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server - and I can date this semantic distortion to an exchange

What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP Datahub Question Paul Generally, one end of an FTP connection is called a server and the other is called a client. Please unconfuse me. I guess the confusion arises because any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server - and I

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:25:59 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server is a

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
no mention of where it sits.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP Datahub Question Paul Generally, one end of an FTP

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Paul Size doesn't matter? For example, consider X11, where the terms are widely misused. I have X11 clients on z/OS communicating with an X11 server on my laptop (with an Intel chip). You don't get away with that one! X windows is the example of client- server that teachers use in order to be

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server is a computer science architectural term. It has nothing to do with the size or

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread George Henke
Kinda like Primary LU and Secondary LU in SNA lingo. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.eduwrote: On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread Hal Merritt
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FTP Datahub Question We have a user who wishes to FTP a file from sending server A to neutral server B and independent of A and B, server C

FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread Donnelly, John P
We have a user who wishes to FTP a file from sending server A to neutral server B and independent of A and B, server C will logon to server B and read the file. Any suggestions as to how we might lock out server C until the FTP from server A to server B is complete?

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/23/2010 3:14:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, john.p.donne...@nsc.com writes: Any suggestions as to how we might lock out server C until the FTP from server A to server B is complete? Let C drive? Do the proxy from A to B then do what it needs to do?

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FTP Datahub Question We have a user who wishes to FTP a file from sending server

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread Donnelly, John P
...thankyou John... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP Datahub Question -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:38:42 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:58 PM We have a user who wishes to FTP a file from sending server A to neutral server B and independent of A