Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Gerard Schildberger wrote: > Where can one find more information on the TSO/CMS bakeoff report > (also known as the CMS/TSO bakeoff)? Is there a copy of it floating > around in cyberspace ? ___Gerard S. i did a quick look ... i thot i might find it along with a cop

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes: > Something else that came to mind was a comparison of the text markup > "languages" GML and SCRIPT since GML is created from SCRIPT using > the SCRIPT macro function - if my memory serves me well. stu did the original script for cms at the science center...

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/03/2006 at 07:00 PM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Something else that came to mind was a comparison of the text markup >"languages" GML and SCRIPT since GML is created from SCRIPT using the >SCRIPT macro function - if my memory serves me well. Yes, the G

Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-04 Thread Phil Payne
"Under questioning from Senator Fielding, Mr Farr agreed the local project was based on old technology, "but it is still very widely used for large mainframe applications". As I am fond of saying sometimes in presentations, the age of a technology does not convey its usefulness. I'm not quite su

Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-04 Thread Phil Payne
ISTR a language/function called "Concept 14"? It was, IIRC, precisely this sort of thing - a custom high-level language written in macros. IASTR it was in some way associated with IMS/360 DB/DC. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 --

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Chris Mason wrote: Shmuel, Long ago, shortly after I had learned Assembler, I was very keen on the possibilities of assembler language and its associated macro language. (I got a nodding acquaintance with FORTRAN and COBOL a little later but saw no reason to let this dampen my enthusiasm.) I fan

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Mason
sage - From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, 02 March, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > on 03/01/2006 >at 09:59 AM, Jon B

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/01/2006 at 09:59 AM, Jon Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >C is often described, with a mixture of fondness and disdain varying >according to the speaker, as "a language that combines all the >elegance and power of assembly language with all the readability and >mai

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-03-01 Thread Jon Brock
C is often described, with a mixture of fondness and disdain varying according to the speaker, as "a language that combines all the elegance and power of assembly language with all the readability and maintainability of assembly language." (MIT Jargon Dictionary) Jon C is considerably more

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/28/2006 at 08:00 AM, "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I believe Assembler is the most primitive language in use, regardless >of platform. C is considerably more basic than HLA. In fact, any assembler with a decent macro facility is higher level than C. -

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/28/2006 at 11:44 AM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >BTW: Isn't COBOL the most primitive language in use ? No. Not even close. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't c

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/28/2006 4:45:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Isn't COBOL the most primitive language in use ? OK, I assume Basic (BASIC ?) is not in use. Isn't COBOL unpopular on other platforms ? >> Not so sure that's all bad. With precompilers pretty

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. > > [ snip ] > > BTW: Isn't COBOL the most primitive language in use ? I believe Assembler is the most primitive language in use, regardless of platform. -jc- --

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Steve Flynn
On 28/02/06, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW: Isn't COBOL the most primitive language in use ? OK, I assume Basic > (BASIC ?) is not in use. Isn't COBOL unpopular on other platforms ? Visual BASIC still seems quite popular... OK, so it's not basic BASIC, but it's basically the same. (OK, I

Re: Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread R.S.
Bill Klein wrote: I assume you saw the paragraph, "Under questioning from Senator Fielding, Mr Farr agreed the local project was based on old technology, "but it is still very widely used for large mainframe applications". " Any guess about what the author of this article things about THAT pla

Fw: Tax chooses dead language - Austalia

2006-02-28 Thread Bill Klein
I assume you saw the paragraph, "Under questioning from Senator Fielding, Mr Farr agreed the local project was based on old technology, "but it is still very widely used for large mainframe applications". " Any guess about what the author of this article things about THAT platform (he asked IBM-M