Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Not sure where that came from. I looked at what I sent in my sent items folder and it is not there. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU S

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom, The most valuable suggestion in addition to the one on SMS manuals is the one found at the bottom of every note on this list: Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html We both know that topics about ACS routine coding have been discussed many times over. To

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:07:52 -0400, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom, > > > >The most valuable suggestion in addition to the one on SMS manuals >is the one found at the bottom of every note on this list: > > > >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > Agree

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:07:52 -0400, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Snip! > Personally, I would avoid coding ACS routines based upon the specified volume, except for transitional purposes. IMHO, you want to

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
The system volumes - not just the IPL volumes, but everything needed to get MVS up and ready to restore applications - should not be managed by SMS. In my reference below to "The first volumes to restore in a D/R situation," I was thinking of the first SMS volumes that are restored to get the

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
> Of course, this assumes that a sufficiently small subset of the total SMS environment can be defined to make it worthwhile. Understood and agreed. I'm out of practice and spoiled at the moment. GDPS/XRC :-) Bob Richards LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is i

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tommy Tsui
thanks BOB and TOM briefly explanation..thanks again... Under non-sms managed, we have to allocate some double journal VSAM file into different volumes such as IBMA01, IBMB01, (for performance purpose) In SMS managed, the two journal may allocate to same volume after reorg (if use a same pool)e

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? thanks BOB and TOM briefly explanation..thanks again... Under non-sms managed, we have to allocate some double journal VSAM file into different volumes such as IBMA01, IBMB01, (for performance purpose) In SMS managed, the two jou

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:21:49 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >thanks BOB and TOM briefly explanation..thanks again... >Under non-sms managed, we have to allocate some double journal VSAM file >into different volumes such as IBMA01, IBMB01, (for performance purpose) >In SMS managed, th

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Are you sure you still need to ensure that these two data sets go to different >volumes for performance reasons? >If it is a concern on today's DASD, you should be looking at other techniques >to improve performance, such as striped data sets. I agree! With Cache, PAV, buffers, faster DASD, you

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-20 Thread Tommy Tsui
IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe副本抄送 Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 主旨 .EDU> Re: How ca

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread John Kington
Tommy, /* case 1 allocate temporary file //BACKUP1 EXEC PGM=ICEGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DUMMY,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0) //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&&TEMP,DISP=(,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA, // SPACE=(CYL,(1,1),RLSE) //SYSINDD DUMMY Your ACS code will work for this case but you

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread james smith
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: 21 August 2006 09:08 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? Hi Tom, Thanks your advice again. I still have a little question on SMS. I

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Richards.Bob
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? Snippage Your ACS code will work for this case but you know that already. In case

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread John Kington
Bob, >I disagree with you. My assumption is that Tommy will have *converted* >TSMD12 to SMS management and will have mounted it PRIVATE. Mounting a SMS managed volume as PRIVATE will have no impact on how SMS controls allocation. Yes, you could put the volume in the same storage group in quiesce

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Greg Shirey
L PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? /* case 3 allocate a dataset without volume assinged it will allocate to "STORAGE" volume under NON-SMS managed //BACKUP1 EXEC PGM=ICEGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Richards.Bob
that way unless I had to. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume dat

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread John Kington
Bob, >That was huge leap on your part to go from dataset placement being >honored to "what about if there is no space there?" I did post earlier in this thread asking why convert to SMS? I did have to make a huge leap that the PUBLIC volumes are for temporary datasets, PRIVATE volumes are dedicate

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Richards.Bob
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? Bob, >That was huge leap on your part to go from dataset placement being >honored to "what about if there is no space there?" I did post earlier in this thread asking why convert to SMS? I

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Tommy Tsui
scussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? Bob, >That was huge leap on your part to go from dataset placement being >hon

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:03:25 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...I think I have to read more manual >right now and perform more TEST cases > You might also want to think about how you will implement SMS. One way is to set up your SMS policy and convert your existing volumes t

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-22 Thread Richards.Bob
availability. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? On Tue, 22

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-22 Thread Richards.Bob
ECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? Hi Tom, Thanks Tom, agreed with you step by step and I will select "&DSTYPE" = TEMP as my first mi

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-23 Thread Darth Keller
A personal choice here, but I've also found it very helpful over the years to include a WRITE statement for every exit: /** /* ALLOW STORAGE ADMINISTRATORS AND SYSTEM PROGRAMMERS TO * /* SELECT THE STORAGE CLASS OF CH

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-23 Thread Richards.Bob
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darth Keller Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets? A personal choice here, but I've also found it very helpful over the

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2006-08-21 Thread Tommy Tsui
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2006-08-23 Thread Tommy Tsui
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