IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
The announcement letter is here for 8 Gbps: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/897/ENUS109-417 Shipments should start very soon (on July 31, 2009). FICON Express8 is available for System z10 EC and BC. IBM is withdrawing FICON Express4 adapters for z10 machines (only) effective October 27, 20

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-23 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I just read through a lot of the announcement letter from the link quoted below. This sounds very interesting. I don't know what the FICON Express8 channels cost, but I know if you just bought your machine, and you decide you need those channels, you it will probably cost a lot to convert. I

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-23 Thread R.S.
Eric Bielefeld pisze: I just read through a lot of the announcement letter from the link quoted below. This sounds very interesting. I don't know what the FICON Express8 channels cost, but I know if you just bought your machine, and you decide you need those channels, you it will probably co

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-23 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I doubt if the new channels will be significantly more expensive if you buy them with a new machine. If you just took delivery of your machine 2 months ago, and then realize these chanells could help because you have a huge DASD farm, you might be talking significant dollars, although if you ha

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8 I doubt if the new channels will be significantly more expensive if yo

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, That's not necessarily true. If you are using something other than the DS8K storage from IBM you will probably see an improvement in single channel throughput because the bottleneck on the channel is at the host end, rather than the storage port. There will also be an advantage for where

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mileage will vary on this. The most interesting part of the announcement to me is that the link speed increase is only part of the story. There seem to be other changes in the adapter and elsewhere that improve performance, both with and without activating the link speed boost. Another thing to ke

Re: IBM Announces FICON Express8

2009-07-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Tim, Flashdrives are not going to make any surprising leaps and bounds due Channel performance. The concurrent throughput of Flashdrives is limited by the Back-end topology of each vendor's storage, and has very little to do with the Host Channel connections to cache. If a customer wants/needs to