Tommy Tsui wrote:
..I
think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to
announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...
Using http://www.tech-news.com/ as a reference, the history of IBM CMOS
mainframe processor hardware generations is as follows:
z9-109 4Q 03 is wrong, z9-109 was announced in 2Q 05 and later
renamed to z9 EC in 2Q 06 with z9 BC announcement
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Edward Jaffe
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Tommy Tsui wrote:
..I
think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to
Gibney, Dave wrote:
The Multiprise 2003's were also CMOS. We replaced a 3090-400J with
one sometime after 96.
Yup. As well as MP3000s, P/390s, etc. I didn't mention them because I
don't consider them direct ancestors of the current machines.
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announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Tommy Tsui wrote:
..I
think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try
to
announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years
later...
Using http://www.tech-news.com/ as a reference, the history of IBM
CMOS
Is there another 10% drop in MSUs/MIPS for the z10?
Yes
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On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 14:51 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote:
You can upgrade a System z9 EC to a System z10 EC and keep your machine's
serial number. You can order those upgrades now, and they are apparently
shipping now.
But you (apparently) *can't* directly upgrade a BC.
I wonder why they
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Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9
because our shop migrated toz9 this week
any big differences between z9
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Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9
because our shop migrated toz9 this week
any big differences between z9
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Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast
No, not yet.
Will be announced soon I believe.
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any upgrade path for z9 currently?
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Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9
because our shop migrated toz9 this week
any big differences between z9
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Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9
because our shop migrated toz9 this week
any big differences between z9
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Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast
Tommy Tsui wrote:
Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM
announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't like a desktop computer ..I
think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to
announced a new model of mainframe computer just three
Is it too frequent for you ? Then stay with old machine.
Any bets on how long before another ALS ???
Shane ...
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Tommy Tsui wrote:
Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why
IBM announced the new
from the announcement:
quote
Planned availability dates
• Features and functions for the System z10 EC: February 26, 2008
• System z10 EC Models E12, E26, E40, E56, and E64: February 26, 2008
• z990 upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008
• z9 EC upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008
z10 quad-core 4.4Ghz..how fast compared with z9 ...?
A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it necessary??? to avoid outages..is it
means more available for dynamic activate IOCDS...
On 2/26/08, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from the announcement:
quote
Planned availability dates
• Features and
16 GB HSA - all 60 LPARs, all 4 CSSs, all devices are there, just use them.
I think it is great.
Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
z10 quad-core 4.4Ghz..how fast compared with z9 ...?
A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it
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at 04:28 PM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast
Before asking why, ask whether. Why do you believe that they should have
waited? I don't see the pace of announcements as being unusually rapid.
is there any problem
Marian wrote
16 GB HSA - all 60 LPARs, all 4 CSSs, all devices are there, just use
them.
I think it is great.
I agree...
When the PR/SM architect told me about it a few months ago he said it was
to simplify sizing by ensuring ALL configs were already contained within
the 16GB. And he
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tommy Tsui) writes:
Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why
IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't
A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it necessary??? to avoid outages..is it means
more available for dynamic activate IOCDS...
Also, it means you no longer tie up part of your investment in memory with that
needed for HSA.
So, if you buy 64GB (for example), you have 64GB available for your LPARs.
At 12:07 AM 2/27/2008, you wrote:
Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM
Whoa! No Competitors! Only if you define the market in a very
narrow way. Surely the market has plenty of alternate suppliers,
all eager to move our applications off the remaining
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0800, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9
because our shop migrated toz9 this week
any big differences between z9
Tommy:
The z9-109 (now known as the z9 EC) was announced on July
I agree, the fixed, reserved HSA is great. Much simpler, much easier to
plan -- even if you can't plan.
Tommy, your System z9 will keep operating just fine. There are many reasons
why z9 (and previous) model mainframe owners upgrade, though, and it really
doesn't matter how recently they upgraded
You can upgrade a System z9 EC to a System z10 EC and keep your machine's
serial number. You can order those upgrades now, and they are apparently
shipping now.
Is there another 10% drop in MSUs/MIPS for the z10?
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