Robert A. Rosenberg writes:
I may be confusing the new year with some other religious event. I
only remember in the context of a problem in making up printed
calendars in advance due to the need for the event to occur before the
linking of the two sets of dates can be done. If true, this would ha
In , on 12/21/2011
at 06:41 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said:
>Yes I was referring to clerics and deciding when a new year starts
>based on viewing the night sky. I may be remembering wrong but it was
> something on the order of needing to see some set number of stars in
> the sky within some t
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> [ snip ]
>
> Water barrels, cinder block walls, and an earthen hill won't stop a
cannon ball being test fired at
> the Alameda County Sheriff's Department firing range.. It will still
bounce up the hi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
> On 12/21/2011 2:18 PM, Chase, John wrote:
>>
>> Already been tried: IBM-MAIN-OT in Yahoo Groups.
>>
>> Can you say "lead balloon"?
>
> I guess you missed the Mythbusters episode where they obtained lead foil,
> inflated it, and launche
On 12/21/2011 2:18 PM, Chase, John wrote:
Already been tried: IBM-MAIN-OT in Yahoo Groups.
Can you say "lead balloon"?
I guess you missed the Mythbusters episode where they obtained
lead foil, inflated it, and launched it
And a better name for the group would be DRIFT-WOULD?
Gerhard Pos
At 21:46 -0500 on 12/20/2011, John Gilmore wrote about Re: Imagine
having to deal with THIS in production:
Robert A. Rosenberg writes:
. . . There is also the issue that in some calenders the date of New
Year's Day (ie: When the new year starts) is not a fixed number of
days from the
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> Subject: Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production
>
> We could start IBM-DRIFT...
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Bill Fairchild
> wrote:
> > The original topic was certainly appropriate to IBM Mainframes, as was the
> > original drift.
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> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Bill Fairchild
> wrote:
>> Imagine having THIS thread stopped.
&
#x27;re not the only ones...
Bill Fairchild
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Bill Fairchild
wrote:
> Imagine having THIS thread stopped.
Indeed...I'm sorry I ever started it.
"Imagine there's no topic drift...it's easy if you try...no flaming,
whining, pedantics...no making Darren cry..."
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Imagine having THIS thread stopped.
Bill Fairchild
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We're getting off-field again with religion, people. Don't want Darren setting
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On 12/21/2011 02:02 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
,
on 12/20/2011
at 09:46 PM, John Gilmore said:
Others are observing this sky too, and no cleric wishes to be made
a figure of fun by denying what is obvious to many others.
Shirley biblical literalism is an exception to that. I
In
,
on 12/20/2011
at 09:46 PM, John Gilmore said:
>Others are observing this sky too, and no cleric wishes to be made
>a figure of fun by denying what is obvious to many others.
Shirley biblical literalism is an exception to that. I can't speak to
the Christian scriptures, but the Tanakh is
s been observed in the night sky. Others are observing
this sky too, and no cleric wishes to be made a figure of fun by
denying what is obvious to many others.
John Gilmore
On 12/20/11, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> At 23:02 -0600 on 12/19/2011, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Imagine
> having
At 23:02 -0600 on 12/19/2011, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Imagine
having to deal with THIS in production:
There are of course other strong arguments against universal usage
of JD for dates any time in our lifetime. As long as we remain an
Earth-centric and not a space-centric culture, that
Coping with the Jewish calendar in fact provides an excellent vehicle
for learning to do date arithmetic in general.
Among the not quite obvious pitfalls: There are Jewish holidays that,
at long intervals, do not occur at all in some Gregorian year, and
there are others that occur, again infrequen
In
,
on 12/20/2011
at 12:40 PM, Mike Schwab said:
>The Jewish calendear might be worse. They use leap months to keep
>the calendar roughly aligned with the season.
There are also smaller adjustments such that certain holidays can't
occur on certain days of the week.
--
Shmuel (Seymo
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> Muslims.
The Jewish calendear might be worse. They use leap months to keep the
calendar roughly aligned with the season. But after a leap month,
your year to year comparisons of the weather on a certain day of the
year would be similar to co
Muslims.
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Subject: Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production
Sent: 20 Dec 2011 09:47
Mike Schwab wrote:
Actually, the Islamic
Mike Schwab wrote:
Actually, the Islamic calendar is 12 lunar months of 29.5 days on
average. So it is shorter than a solar year by about 11 days and the
1st day of the year cycles through the solar year about every 34 or so
years.
and his point in fact makes mine. In the standard Moslem view
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
> John,
> If you had read all of the included previous thread context in my previous
> response, the context was "the world's eventual conversion to format>", not a discussion limited to internal date usage by machines. I
> would say that ma
On 12/19/2011 05:39 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
Joel C. Ewing writes (of Julian days):
| That makes much sense for astronomers that work through
| the night and sleep during the day, but is a terrible fit for people
| and businesses that have to deal with "normal" work hours and
| who would never t
Joel C. Ewing writes (of Julian days):
| That makes much sense for astronomers that work through
| the night and sleep during the day, but is a terrible fit for people
| and businesses that have to deal with "normal" work hours and
| who would never tolerate the same period of daylight being
| ca
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