Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Richard L Peurifoy > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:21 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job > created a DASD DSN? > > On 12/14/2011

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Thanks Bill for kindly giving me a wee hint. :-) Browsing this thing showed it is a truly ancient art modified over the years all the way from indexed VTOC support in 1979 around... ;-D Just curious... was there ever a

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>Browsing this thing showed it is a truly ancient art modified over the years >>all the way from indexed VTOC support in 1979 around... ;-D >All the way? It goes back well before 1979, to OS/360, although I haven't >checked whether there are change flags from tha

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Mike Schwab
I think they still existing on non-indexed volumes. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.idar100/r1042.htm On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: > If you mean was there ever a Format 7 DSCB, then the answer is yes.  It is > not incl

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 12/14/2011 2:32 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Richard, If the format 9 DSCB includes the date, time and jobname of the creating job it should not be too hard to tie this to an SMF Type30 subtype 2 or 3 record to get additional auditing information. This is true, but unless you keep SMF data foreve

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <7017189519691316.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu>, on 12/14/2011 at 07:14 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Browsing this thing showed it is a truly ancient art modified over >the years all the way from indexed VTOC support in 1979 around... ;-D All the way? It goes back well be

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Fairchild
rame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN? Just curious... was there ever a num

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bill Fairchild wrote: >See SYS1.MODGEN(IECSDSL1) for the Format 1 through Format 9 DSCB DSECTs. Thanks Bill for kindly giving me a wee hint. :-) Browsing this thing showed it is a truly ancient art modified over the years all the way from indexed VTOC support in 1979 around... ;-D Just curiou

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
M-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Richard L Peurifoy > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job > created a DASD DSN? > > On 12/13/2011 1:15 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 12/13/2011 1:15 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Bill Fairchild
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN? >>Mike Wood

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Wood wrote: >One more thing no-one mentioned yet :-D >The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 >DSCB rather than format-1. >So, going forward, hopefully, more data set will readily have that information >in the vtoc. Please be very kind to share

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Wood
One more thing no-one mentioned yet The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 DSCB rather than format-1. So, going forward, hopefully, more data set will readily have that information in the vtoc. Mike Wood ---

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
You did not state what kind of dataset 1) SEQ/PS/PO/PDSE Or 2) VSAM If the first - SMF 14/15 - there are records for create/update/read/delete for these types of files. If the second - SMF Type 60s (I do not have the SMF manual to refer to which one is CREATE for VSAM). There are different r

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cosby, Bob wrote: nothing? ;-) Ok, From the subject above you want something to tell you what created a dataset? One question: do you want to be notified IMMEDIATELY or do you want some 'after the event' reports? You got good replies for the latter. For the first, AFAIK, there is nothing 'r

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-13 08:57, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: [...] And the final detail: SMF14/15 is written at CLOSE. If a dataset is created and never opened, there will be no SMF14/15, nor any CA-DISK info. If the dataset is cataloged, you can look at SMF61 (catalog define). Of course one must care

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Roberts, John J" wrote in message news:<93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c12507...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.i a.us>... > Going back to fundamentals, my recollection is that this information is not in the VTOC (F1 DSCB), nor is it to be found in the catalog. Unless someone puts it there, like CA-DI

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Gould
Liz, I know what you mean, however most shops turn a blind eye to systems people running their own acquired code on their own ID. I understand and fully agree that programs like DAF and others on the CBT or other such places should not be given to applications programs . I have been burned by

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Gould
Dave, Technically IBM also supplies HLASM as well but the question was phrased to let the reader to think that a canned solution. The DFSORT option (actually semi valid) requires a bit of logic and some amount of programming type logic ie packed, binary etc and of course record layouts and wha

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Roberts, John J
Going back to fundamentals, my recollection is that this information is not in the VTOC (F1 DSCB), nor is it to be found in the catalog. So it is only to be found in the SMF data. I hope I have it right so far. One implication could be that for certain ancient datasets, there will be no recor

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
du] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a > DASD DSN? > > > > > Liz, > > > >The list you provided is OK, but in

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > Liz, > >The list you provided is OK, but in reality you really only need DAF and its >free. >While the others an do the job well I might add. The simple answer is usually >the best. > >Ed > Absolutely agree. DAF is usually sufficient. However, some shops do not like "freeware" and this s

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Gould
Liz, The list you provided is OK, but in reality you really only need DAF and its free. While the others an do the job well I might add. The simple answer is usually the best. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
SAS + MICS or SAS + MXG or DAF from CBT Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/a

Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Staller, Allan
There are probably several on the CBT tape (www.cbttape.org) I recommend the DAF utility on the CBT tape (file094). You can look at the SMF 14/15 records using IEHEYEBALL. AFAIK, there is no "supplied" program with z/OS. HTH,

Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-12 Thread Cosby, Bob - OCFO
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