Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/28/2011 at 06:54 AM, "McKown, John" said: >How about SNOBOL4? Shirley SL/5 or Icon is more suitable. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: > If we want to delete the skip to channel 1 then I think you want to omit it > not include. Thanks for spotting my error (I *said* my memory is not that good, mind you... ;-D ) INCLUDE COND=(1,7,CH,EQ,C'1IDCAMS') must be actually INCLUDE COND=(1,7,CH,NE,C'1IDCAMS') or someth

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-29 Thread John McKown
Very true. I sometimes get carried away with my current "love". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http:

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Ed Gould
Sort is simple and doesn't require to use OE. And it doesn't need knowing switches like -r etc and sort is well documented unlike the OE. Yes I know we all want to show off talents that are gotten over a wood fire and bubbly cauldrons. But for something like this the KISS methodology is never w

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Shane
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:53:18 -0500 "McKown, John" wrote: > Minor Perl script to totally remove IDCAMS title lines from a > LISTCAT. Use of "tsocmd" > > fromdsn -r 'idcams.output' |\ > perl -n -e 'next if m/^1IDCAMS /;next if m/ LISTING FROM > CATALOG /;print;' |\ todsn -r 'idcams.output.notitles'

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Ed Gould
If we want to delete the skip to channel 1 then I think you want to omit it not include. However if the idea is to make you own decision on where to skip to channel 1 you would have to insert at a later time the skip to channel one and the header yourself. Ed -

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: > How about SORT ? That can work, just a simple COPY, while preserving sequence, and INCLUDE COND=(1,7,CH,EQ,C'1IDCAMS') is all you perhaps need to drop that pesky header line with '1' and then passing the rest to an output DD somewhere. ( Please Note: above syntax is *untested*

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Ed Gould
How about SORT ? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <665755e5c3e01845ad6bda0855b8cec733258fb...@gscmamp01ex.firmwide.corp.gs.com>, on 10/26/2011 at 11:39 PM, "Bonaduce, Frank" said: >Another possibility in addition to those mentioned is using the >Catalog Search Interface, IGGCSI00. If you are versed in Assembler, CSI works perfectly well f

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <35pga755l03ear7inlrt5o4mok19bd0...@4ax.com>, on 10/26/2011 at 09:51 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: >When you suggest RTFM, Those are your words, not mine. >what is the point of a useless suggestion? Why do you beat your wife? A suggestion is only a suggestion; some pan out, others don't.

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:03 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output > > Hmmm - I'm not altogether s

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-28 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:03 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output > > Hmmm - I'm not altogether s

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-27 Thread John McKown
I have some Perl code at work which does "things" with IDCAMS output. I'm at home. It's 01:00 local time. I need to learn how to sleep again. I hate being old. And yes, I do consider the alternative to be better any more. Of course, as far as reading my Perl code is concerned, all I can say is th

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-27 Thread Shane
Hmmm - I'm not altogether sure that I'm comfortable with IDCAMS and "efficient" being mentioned in the same sentence. Be that as it may, for large runs, I did find that assembler invocations of the CSI were significantly faster than REXX doing likewise. Horses for courses - REXX is fine for quick j

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-27 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/27/2011 6:36 PM, Dale Miller wrote: Frank Bonaduce wrote: "Another possibility ... is ... IGGCSI00. If you are versed in Assembler ...". I need to point out that Assembler is not necessary. REXX will do just fine. The only thing that counts is getting things to work, so if you use REXX r

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-27 Thread Bonaduce, Frank
Dale Miller Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output Frank Bonaduce wrote: "Another possibility ... is ... IGGCSI00. If you are versed in Assembler ...". I need to point out that Assembler is not necessary. REXX wi

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-27 Thread Dale Miller
Frank Bonaduce wrote: "Another possibility ... is ... IGGCSI00. If you are versed in Assembler ...". I need to point out that Assembler is not necessary. REXX will do just fine. I put together a suite of tools we used in cloning systems which facilitated catalog cloning,synchronizing, etc.

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Linda Mooney
of the paper :) and the resulting dataset (or PDS member) could easily be viewed in ISPF.  HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: "Chris Hilliard" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:49:25 AM Subject: Lines per page - IDCAMS output Curious

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Bonaduce, Frank
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output On 25 Oct 2011 08:08:45 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per p

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Oct 2011 08:08:45 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per page for >IDCAMS output. It appears to be set to something like 52. On occasion we >need to print off rather large LISTCAT listings. In the interest of savin

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/26/2011 3:51 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: When you suggest RTFM, make sure that there is something in the FM. Otherwise, what is the point of a useless suggestion? There are way too many new users addicted to the internet, who are used to asking a question and getting an answer, without h

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:38:54 -0500 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: :>In , on 10/26/2011 :> at 01:38 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: :>>Perhaps if you had taken the effort to look at the manual you would :>>have seen that there is no such parm. :>Perhaps you don't understand the difference betwee

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <87348bf0403c3e42b369e1989a8961130183c1d...@exchvs5a.mx.state.mo.us>, on 10/26/2011 at 11:38 AM, "Turriff, Leslie" said: >There's no easy way to do this. 1. Run the commands under TSO and trap the output 2. Use the SYSPRINT exit, subject to authorization -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) M

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/26/2011 at 01:38 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: >Perhaps if you had taken the effort to look at the manual you would >have seen that there is no such parm. Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a suggestion and a complete solution. Had I had the requirement, it would have

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Turriff, Leslie
MMY //SYSUT1 DD DSN=&&IDCAMS, // DISP=(OLD,DELETE) //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=A, // DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=121) //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=A //* // Leslie Turriff State of Missouri Information Technology Se

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Ed Gould
This sounds like a SHARE requirement. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archiv

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:58:56 -0500 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: :>In <8447645509998585.wa.chris.hilliardnorfolk@bama.ua.edu>, on :>10/25/2011 :> at 09:49 AM, Chris Hilliard said: :>>Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per :>>page for IDCAMS output. :>The

Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <8447645509998585.wa.chris.hilliardnorfolk@bama.ua.edu>, on 10/25/2011 at 09:49 AM, Chris Hilliard said: >Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per >page for IDCAMS output. There's a design principle from OS/360 that all utilities should be callable as subrou

Lines per page - IDCAMS output

2011-10-25 Thread Chris Hilliard
Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per page for IDCAMS output. It appears to be set to something like 52. On occasion we need to print off rather large LISTCAT listings. In the interest of saving paper, being able to fill up the page would be useful. I serached t