In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/09/2006
at 10:21 AM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Wasn't (the first, at least) ELIZA (the Turing Test psychologist
simulator) written in SNOBOL?
AFAIK it was written in FORTRAN.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/09/2006
at 02:21 PM, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
ELIZA was described by Joseph Weizenbaum in the January 1966 CACM.
It was written in MAD-SLIP (whatever *that* was), and ran on a 7094.
A later version of the Michigan Algorithm Decoder?
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/09/2006
at 12:28 PM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Am I the only person who finds Rexx at least a little reminiscent of
SNOBOL?
Probably. I certainly don't see any similarity.
I never worked with LISP; wouldn't recognize it if I saw it. Perhaps
they both
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Owe something to LISP? Not even close, IMHO. LISP has often been
(correctly) described
as parenthesis h**l. I believe its adherents refer to it as a functional
language (i.e., every frellin'
thing you do is a function, requiring arguments in
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:54:39 -0300
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/09/2006
at 02:21 PM, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
ELIZA was described by Joseph Weizenbaum in the January 1966 CACM.
It was written in MAD-SLIP (whatever
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Owe something to LISP? Not even close, IMHO. LISP has often been
(correctly) described as parenthesis h**l. I believe its
adherents refer to it as a functional language (i.e., every
I believe the source distribution for SNOBOL/SPITBOL
is still around. It was on the original ftp site
not so long ago.
Someone had the source for WATFIV not so long ago, too.
I was once trying to find the legal status of WATFIV, but never
found out the answer. Some say that it was transfered
SpitBol at
http://www.snobol4.com/spitbol360/
Snobol4? at
ftp://ftp.cs.arizona.edu/snobol4/
I have a library with SNOBOL4 in it. I think that I got it from the
Hercules/390 project on Yahoo! But I'm not sure. It is
SNOBOL4 (VERSION 3.5, FEB. 10, 1971)
BELL TELEPHONE LABORATORIES,
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 07:56 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
I have a library with SNOBOL4 in it. I think that I got it from the
Hercules/390 project on Yahoo! But I'm not sure. It is
SNOBOL4 (VERSION 3.5, FEB. 10, 1971)
BELL TELEPHONE LABORATORIES, INCORPORATED
Runs fine as is under z/OS
Wow, SNOBOL. That brings back some old memories. I remember using it for
a class assignment to create magic squares.
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I remember using it for two projects. One was a Turing machine
executor that could alter the program (incorporate a 'pattern match'
statement) during execution via the NEWCODE command. It had its limits,
but was a fun language.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/08/2006
at 07:12 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
PL/C - Similar program for PL/1, from Cornell
Actually a PL/I subset.
JOVIAL - ALGOL compile/run
No; while based on ALGOL 58, JOVIAL is a distinct language and the
compiler will barf if you try to feed it
? There was a version I played with on that same
system in 1966-7.
Charles
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I remember using
My first language. About 1966 or 1967. On a timesharing system of some
sort,
accessed via a TTY 33. **Maybe** the timesharing system was CP-67/CMS, but
I
think perhaps it was some GE machine. extracted from original
If you were on a TTY 33 chances are it may have been a GE machine, like a
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 10:21 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Wasn't (the first, at least) ELIZA (the Turing Test psychologist
simulator) written in SNOBOL?
ELIZA was described by Joseph Weizenbaum in the January 1966 CACM. It
was written in MAD-SLIP (whatever *that* was), and ran on a 7094.
ELIZA was described by Joseph Weizenbaum in the January 1966 CACM. It was
written in MAD-SLIP (whatever *that* was), and ran on a 7094.
We had a version on a Honeywell Level 66 (GCOS8) in the mid 1970's, at the
University of Waterloo.
I can't remember if it was written in SPITBOL (UoW's
Of Charles Mills
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My first language. About 1966 or 1967. On a timesharing system of some sort,
accessed via a TTY 33. **Maybe** the timesharing system was CP-67/CMS, but I
think perhaps it was some GE machine
]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Old product tapes
Am I the only person who finds Rexx at least a little reminiscent of SNOBOL?
I never worked with LISP; wouldn't recognize it if I saw it. Perhaps they
both owe something to LISP?
Charles
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On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 07:56 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
I have a library with SNOBOL4 in it. I think that I got it from the
Hercules/390
(Why (do (you (say (that)? :-P
(Never touched the stuff. APL, OTOH...)
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Sent: Wednesday August 09 2006 15:14
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SNOBOL
I'm trying to locate original distribution tapes for a number of OLD software
products that I used and/or installed in my salad days. If anyone has tapes
for the following products and is willing to part with them, I'll cheerfully pay
reasonable shipping costs. If you can help, please contact me
I would love to get my hands on CSMP, PL/C, GPSS, SNOBOL and SPITBOL to get
them working in a z/VM environment. If you can find them, please let me know.
/Tom Kern
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I'm trying to locate original distribution tapes for a number of OLD software
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