Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-26 22:37, john gilmore pisze: The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally stabilized', i.e., frozen. For this and other reasons it is thus---with

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-27 Thread Ed Gould
This is not a direct answer, more I guess a question. wasn#39;t there an IBM announcement that at some time in the near future IBM would support a pds like dataset that supports multi-volume ? my vague recollection that it was ZFS type data set. Ed

PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, Is it possible to allocate a single PDS dataset in Multi-volume ? Can anyone please direct me Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Marguccio
Is it possible to From:jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com Is it possible to allocate a single PDS dataset in Multi-volume ? No. See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt2d480.pdf, Processing a Partitioned Data Set, for more details. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Chris Mason
Jags Thanks to Walter Marguccio for the general reference. Here's an URL you can use which avoids having to download a whole manual: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2D490/3.7.3 quote 3.7.3 Allocating Space for a PDS ... A PDS cannot occupy more than 65 535

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: PDS multi-volume Hi, Is it possible to allocate a single PDS dataset in Multi-volume ? Can anyone please direct me Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PDS multi-volume Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. - Ted MacNEIL Very true. However

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:11:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. Very true. However, I wonder how acceptable it might be to use BPAM's PDS emulation to store what would

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-26 18:18, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:11:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. Very true. However, I wonder how acceptable it might be to use

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:04:13 +0200, R.S. wrote: Well... Probably I did not understand all the discussion above, but IMHO there are no size limitations for PDS *or* PDSE. That means, both flavors of dataset-with-members-inside can be single volume only, but PDSE is limited only by the size of the

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread john gilmore
The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally stabilized', i.e., frozen. For this and other reasons it is thus---with the well-known exceptions of system data sets

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
BTW: I strongly believe there are MRs (customer Marekting Request) submitted to IBM to make PDS(E) multi-volume. I would like to know justification to refuse to such request. I would guess directory complexity. And, performance. PKZIP solved it by putting the directory on the last disk. But,

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally stabilized', i.e., frozen. For this and other

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 4/26/2011 4:12 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: --snip- The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:22:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Not to mention the vast numbr of OEM programs that would be broken by a change in the format of the answer from a NOTE request. IBM extended the size of the information returned by NOTE some time ago from three-byte TTRs to four-byte