Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Don't know what an SME is. Subject Matter Expert. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/22/2007 9:33:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fritzy ol' auditors do NOT mandate anything! >> Don't know what an SME is. There are internal and external auditors as well as Federal Inspection teams. They were between us and the CFO and they t

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Fritzy ol' auditors mandated Fritzy ol' auditors do NOT mandate anything! All they can do is report on compliance based on SME recommendations. Are you following it or not? Anything else is a conflict of duty. SME's recommend. Auditors report. Compliance teams enforce. - Too busy driving to st

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
Fritzy ol' auditors mandated 'electronic separation' between test and production LPARs so many habits were carryovers from that environment. -- We all have our opinions about auditors. Good manners

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/22/2007 10:27:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just ran the template update and shared the databases between old and new level. >> Fritzy ol' auditors mandated 'electronic separation' between test and production LPARs so many habits were

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I had a PHB presentation, but can't find it. Long story short the big conversion was RACF 1.8 to 1.9. After that there are incremental levels of the DB added by using the extended fields in data base records. These fields are examined by newer

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/22/2007 5:26:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks a lot for all your responses. It was really really useful. >> I had a PHB presentation, but can't find it. Long story short the big conversion was RACF 1.8 to 1.9. After that there are in

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-22 Thread Sridhar K Veena
Veena, Sridhar K. Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU' Subject: Question regarding RACF migration. G'day, I want to know from a technical perspective if some one needs to migrate an existing system from an older version of OS (say MVS/ESA, OS/390

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:37:32 -0500, Robert S. Hansel (RSH) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Theoretically, you could just apply the templates for the target z/OS >release to the old database and reIPL with it. This assumes the database in >the restructured format introduced with RACF 1.9 (MVS/ESA). How

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-21 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Question regarding RACF migration. G'day, I want to know from a technical perspective if some one needs to migrate an existing system from an older version of OS (say MVS/ESA, OS/390 etc to Z/Os) what is the impact on RACF?. Would migrating the RACF to a newer

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
I want to know from a technical perspective if some one needs to migrate an existing system from an older version of OS (say MVS/ESA, OS/390 etc to Z/Os) what is the impact on RACF?. Would migrating the RACF to a newer version be a big enough Proj

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-20 Thread Skip Robinson
I dimly recall (hey, it's all pretty dim these days) a long ago chasm crossing where we had to 'reformat' the RACF data base. I can't imagine anyone still running such an ancient release. Unless you're resurrecting a copy of a decades old data base, a 'template refresh' should be sufficient to get

Re: Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-20 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
onths. -Original Message- From: Sridhar K Veena [mailto:snip] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question regarding RACF migration. G'day, I want to know from a technical perspective if some one needs to migrate an existing system from an older

Question regarding RACF migration.

2007-11-19 Thread Sridhar K Veena
G'day, I want to know from a technical perspective if some one needs to migrate an existing system from an older version of OS (say MVS/ESA, OS/390 etc to Z/Os) what is the impact on RACF?. Would migrating the RACF to a newer version be a big enough Project(like a 6 months to 1 year kind of pr