RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Irwin M. Deutsch
Hi, Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some part of RACF. Any ideas on what our auditor is talking about? Thanks, Irwin Deutsch AIG Su

RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Walter Marguccio
--- "Irwin M. Deutsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' > racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found > some STOP for RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some > part of RACF. Any ideas on what

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
The STOP command is discussed in the RACF System Programmer's Guide. Don Imbriale >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >Of Irwin M. Deutsch >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:12 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Irwin M. Deutsch > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:12 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: RACF Stop/Start? > > > Hi, > > Our auditor has

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Wayne Driscoll
rwin M. Deutsch Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RACF Stop/Start? Hi, Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for RRSF in System Command man

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Irwin M. Deutsch wrote: Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some part of RACF. Any ideas on what our auditor is talking about? I'm

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - From: "Irwin M. Deutsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: RACF Stop/Start? Hi, Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Thomas Conley wrote: ... Even if you managed to "stop" RACF, it would go into "failsafe" mode, and every RACROUTE gets a WTOR to the console which must be verified by the system operator (you haven't lived until you hit "failsafe" mode, it takes like 10 minutes to log on to TSO ... Only ten

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Shane Ginnane
Must be a recommendation in "DP Audit 101". When I arrived at this site, that was the *only* command that was covered by a profile. Shane ... > > Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. > Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for >

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-13 Thread Leonard Woren
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 02:24:59PM -0500, McKown, John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Your auditor is likely used to an ACF2 or TopSecret shop. If the ACF2 or > TSS started task is not running, then your security system is down and > things are nasty (I've done that too, I'm old and made many mistak

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread R.S.
Irwin M. Deutsch wrote: Hi, Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some part of RACF. Any ideas on what our auditor is talking about? Id

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On 9/13/2005 11:08 PM, Leonard Woren wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 02:24:59PM -0500, McKown, John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Your auditor is likely used to an ACF2 or TopSecret shop. If the ACF2 or TSS started task is not running, then your security system is down and things are nasty (I've d

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/13/2005 at 12:12 PM, "Irwin M. Deutsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' >racf. Why am I not surprised? >Any ideas on what our auditor is talking about? Well, I doubt that the auditor has any idea of

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - From: "Leonard Woren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: Re: RACF Stop/Start? With ACF2, you can stop the address space, fix the db, restart the address space and you're r

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard Woren > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: RACF Stop/Start? > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 02:

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On 9/14/2005 9:30 AM, McKown, John wrote: The RACF disaster was about 2 months ago. If I had not had a backup RACF database (only 1 day old), and no alternate system (I had both), it would have been a SEV 1 to recover. But with an alternate RACF database, it was a simple RVARY command to switch t

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-26 Thread Hal Merritt
13, 2005 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RACF Stop/Start? Hi, Our auditor has asked why have not protected the command to 'stop' racf. Neither I nor our MVS gurus know of such an animal. I found some STOP for RRSF in System Command manual, but that's just some part of RAC

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-26 Thread Debbie Mitchell
Perhaps they mean the %STOP command (substitue your own command character for %) isn't protected? Debbie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET I

Re: RACF Stop/Start?

2005-09-26 Thread Hal Merritt
Of Debbie Mitchell Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF Stop/Start? Perhaps they mean the %STOP command (substitue your own command character for %) isn't protected? Debbie