Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/21/2007 at 11:22 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Shmuel tends to not explain his answers. That depends on the question, and on the resources I have available at the time. For a suggested code/design change, I do tend to give yes-or-no answers, but fo

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:55:07 -0600 Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Thanks... I was under the misunderstanding that TPUT would not work :>in batch. They have apparently fixed it. TPUT "works" in batch, in that you can send a message to a logged on TSO user. TPUT does not go to SYSTSPRT.

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: Thanks... I was under the misunderstanding that TPUT would not work in batch. They have apparently fixed it. That was *never* the issue. The problem was that the TPUT was being issued from an MPF on the system where the contention message was issued ... not necessarily the sys

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-21 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:22 AM, McKown, John wrote: --SNIP--- In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/16/2007 at 06:49 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Point of curiosity here. Why not just change it to PUTLINE ? Because then it would no longer work. That should fix the proble

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user > > > In &l

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Lucymarie Ruth wrote: Too bad that SYS1.SAMPLIB(ISGECMON) also uses TPUT. Point of curiosity here. Why not just change it to PUTLINE ? That should fix the problem, no? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Lucymarie Ruth
Thanks as well to Mr Jaffe for pointing to the thing right under my nose. It looks as if running the task on every sysplex member may do the trick because contention is visible to all around. I'll play with it. I could be wrong, but if memory serves me correctly, ISGECMON

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Lucymarie Ruth
Maybe you're supposed to run ISGECMON on each LPAR where TSO users might be? Otherwise, I would imagine it would be relatively simple to convert to issuing a z/OS console SEND command to communicate with users wherever they may be Yes, that's the idea. Run ISGECMON on

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brian Peterson wrote: Maybe you're supposed to run ISGECMON on each LPAR where TSO users might be? Otherwise, I would imagine it would be relatively simple to convert to issuing a z/OS console SEND command to communicate with users wherever they may be You are definitely supposed to r

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Shane wrote: "RO *ALL,C U=??" should do the job. If only ... :-D -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ --

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Peterson
Maybe you're supposed to run ISGECMON on each LPAR where TSO users might be? Otherwise, I would imagine it would be relatively simple to convert to issuing a z/OS console SEND command to communicate with users wherever they may be Brian On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:12:44 -0600, Lucymarie Ruth w

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Lucymarie Ruth
Too bad that SYS1.SAMPLIB(ISGECMON) also uses TPUT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/a

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Skip Robinson wrote: For many years we have run an MPF exit called DSNHELD, apparently contributed to the CBT by INTEL (!) in the distant past. The exit sends a message to a user who owns a data set needed by a batch job. The program, last modified by us in the early 90's, does a fine job except

Re: Dataset-held message to TSO user

2007-11-16 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:09 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: > In a sysplex we need to send the message to the user wherever he's logged > on in the GRSplex. Does anyone have a more modern mechanism to accomplish > this goal? "RO *ALL,C U=??" should do the job. May even SEND ... Sounds perfect f