Re: [Re: SMP/E "target source library"]

2006-06-16 Thread Skip Robinson
t; Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 06/16/2006 09:06 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: [Re: SMP/E "target source library"] In a recent note, Kurt Quackenbush said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:33:42 -0400 >

Re: [Re: SMP/E "target source library"]

2006-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Kurt Quackenbush said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:33:42 -0400 > > Ah, now the confusion becomes clear... the developer was in fact > CORRECT. The SYSLIB operand on the ++SRC defines the target library for > the source... it does NOT define the target library for a load

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 08:49 AM, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >A target library pointed to by a SYSLIB might be a load library, a >macro library, a panel library, ... or a source library. Indeed, and were the library in question a source library then there would be n

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread john gilmore
Kurt Quackenbush wins this argument on points. That said, it is worth adding that 'source' and 'target' are much used to specify origin and destination, _from_ and _to_ locations. In this usage these two terms are antithetical, mutually exclusive. Source, as in 'source program', is also us

[Re: SMP/E "target source library"]

2006-06-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I readily agree there was a user error. The developer coded (as above) "++ SRC() ... SYSLIB(xxx)", where xxx was the DDNAME of a data set with RECFM=FB,LRECL=80, in which the developer (incorrectly) expected a copy of the assembler source to be stored. Ah, now the confusion becomes clea

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Kurt Quackenbush said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:58:29 -0400 > > >>No. 3.7.5.5 discusses source; 3.7.5.8 discusses modules. So it is > >>appropriate language for the section you cited. > >> > > Why, then, did we get the error from Binder: > > (Please forgive the rhet

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, John Eells said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:49:55 -0400 > > Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > Well understood. And since in this case the message referred to the > > data set identified by the SYSLIB() keyword, I maintain that the > > RM's characterization of SYSLIB as a "s

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
No. 3.7.5.5 discusses source; 3.7.5.8 discusses modules. So it is appropriate language for the section you cited. Why, then, did we get the error from Binder: IEW2735S DA0F OUTPUT DATA SET FOR DDNAME xxx HAS INVALID RECORD FO RMAT. RECFM=U IS REQUIRED. .. when we attempted to inst

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Well understood. And since in this case the message referred to the data set identified by the SYSLIB() keyword, I maintain that the RM's characterization of SYSLIB as a "source library" is misplaced. In my view, a target library is one that is updated by APPLY process

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Subject: Re: SMP/E "target source library" > >In a recent note, "Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)" said: > >> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:15:34 -0400 >> >> Source will first be assembled, then processed by the binder, so >> eventually a module

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, "Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)" said: > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:15:34 -0400 > > Source will first be assembled, then processed by the binder, so > eventually a module will be dealt with. I suspect the error message is > generated during processing of the module, not the

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:00 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: SMP/E "target source library" > >In a recent note, "Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)" said: > >> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:32:

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, "Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)" said: > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:32:51 -0400 > > No. 3.7.5.5 discusses source; 3.7.5.8 discusses modules. So it is > appropriate language for the section you cited. > Why, then, did we get the error from Binder: IEW2735S DA0F OUTP

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
1:27 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: SMP/E "target source library" > >In: > >Title: SMP/E V3R4.0 Commands >Document Number: SA22-7771-09 > >3.0 Chapter 3. The APPLY command > >3.7 Processing > 3.7.5 Element inst

SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In: Title: SMP/E V3R4.0 Commands Document Number: SA22-7771-09 3.0 Chapter 3. The APPLY command 3.7 Processing 3.7.5 Element installation 3.7.5.5 Source replacements SMP/E then schedules the actual update of the target source library. The library to b