Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Relson
SYMUPDTE has not existed for many years. There is IEASYMUP. If you are using SYMUPDTE, I suggest that you change. "Supported" is an interesting term. I might say that "supported" means documented and that we will take an APAR if there is an error. I might say that IEASYMUP meets both of those q

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 25 May 2011 11:27:36 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:29:17 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> >>>But the source code is what is supplied in >>>SYS1.SAMPLIB and not the object code - so at least you have that >>>for documentation. >> >>SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEASYMUP) is object. >> >

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
> >Lizette, Here's the info on the open Share requirement: > >Requirement#:SSMVSE10004 > >Title:Allow symbols to be changed without an IPL > >Description:System symbols are invaluable in the efficient management of a >system, and especially for the ability to easily manage a sysplex. However, >th

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Lizette, Here's the info on the open Share requirement: Requirement#:SSMVSE10004 Title:Allow symbols to be changed without an IPL Description:System symbols are invaluable in the efficient management of a system, and especially for the ability to easily manage a sysplex. However, the lack of a

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:29:17 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >>But the source code is what is supplied in >>SYS1.SAMPLIB and not the object code - so at least you have that >>for documentation. > >SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEASYMUP) is object. > That was my point. I was referring to other programs in SYS1.SAMP

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 25 May 2011 07:59:32 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Wed, 25 May 2011 08:21:02 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >>The combination of SYMUPDTE and DEF ALIAS SYMBOLICRELATE >>could save a lot of IPL downtime. Yes, it can. I have used it for that purpose in a production environment with no p

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
> Mark Zelden Wrote: > There are lot of sample programs that don't have much documentation, and are "used > at your own risk" because of certain caveats or they are used for special situations. > But the source code is what is supplied in SYS1.SAMPLIB and not the object code - so > at least you hav

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 May 2011 08:21:02 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I have (yes I am way behind on this) researching SYMUPDTE. And it has been >around since 1999 and it is not well documented. I was just wondering why >IBM has not made this official? The only manuals are SG24-5451, SG24-6818 >and SG24

Re: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Rob Scott
ftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 25 May 2011 13:21 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet I have (yes I am way behind on this) researching SYMUPDTE. And it has be

SYMUPDTE Why is it not fully supported yet

2011-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have (yes I am way behind on this) researching SYMUPDTE. And it has been around since 1999 and it is not well documented. I was just wondering why IBM has not made this official? The only manuals are SG24-5451, SG24-6818 and SG24-7328. There is only a brief description of the RACF facility of