Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 22:45, Ted MacNEIL pisze: And, many disciplines, such as capacity planning. Example: type 30, type 110 do not have serial numbers, LPAR names, etc. Type 72, 74, etc don't have them either. So what? I don't see any relationship to 110 or 30. Then obviously you've never done

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Then obviously you've never done Capacity Planning, Performance Management or Chargeback. Very far-fetched opinion, unjustified. To clarify: I don't see any relationship to SCRT. My point was there are many records that are dependent on independent SMFIDs. I was giving examples and you said

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-13 11:05, Ted MacNEIL pisze: But, back to my original point. There are many reasons for unique SMFIDs, so why is SCRT an issue? No. There are many reasons where unique SMF ID would be advantage, but it's still not necessary. Convenient, not required. You have to do it anyways,

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No. There are many reasons where unique SMF ID would be advantage, but it's still not necessary. Even one is enough. Once you have a single valid reason, all else pales in comparison. Convenient, not required. I disagree. There are many 'required'. And, one is enough. Convenience is in the eye

Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Has anyone else downloaded the new version (18.2) and tested it yet? I am getting errors and am wondering if anyone else is too. Maybe I got a bad download from the net or a corrupted upload to my mainframe. Errors are below: IEW2307E 1113 CURRENT INPUT MODULE NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE OF INVALID

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread גדי בן אבי
It worked fine for me. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Speaking of SCRT Has anyone else downloaded the new version (18.2

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Maybe I got a bad download from the net or a corrupted upload to my mainframe. If you think that's the case, did you try retrieving a fresh copy? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Not yet, but since Gadi replied with a good report, I'll grab it again. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Speaking of SCRT Maybe I got

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Okay, problem must be on my end then. I'll download/upload it again. Thanks! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gad...@malam.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Speaking of SCRT

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Speaking of SCRT Has anyone else downloaded the new version (18.2) and tested it yet? I am getting errors and am wondering if anyone else is too. Maybe I got a bad

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
. Bob -Original Message- From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:51 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Speaking of SCRT Still getting errors. I am connected remotely today, coming in through PCOM and using IND$FILE with Binary. Normally, I use HOD and FTP

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:35:37 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: Somehow, the member I was copying into had gotten switched from CAPS OFF to CAPS ON. It's a good idea to use mixed case in one's comments, so if CAPS ON corrupts your file, the change is visibly apparent. I suspect Shane will

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
: Speaking of SCRT On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:35:37 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: Somehow, the member I was copying into had gotten switched from CAPS OFF to CAPS ON. It's a good idea to use mixed case in one's comments, so if CAPS ON corrupts your file, the change is visibly apparent. I suspect

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
My €0.02: 1. I *hate* CAPS ON, especially automatic switch when lowercase character is found (although this is NOT the case). I wish I would have option for CAPS in profile. 2. Method of SCRT delivery is error prone. IMHO it would be better at least to supply it as PDS, so the code would be in

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
4. (unrelated to original problem, but related to SCRT). IMO requirement for unique SMF ID is silly and technically unfounded. I disagree. I've always had unique SMF id's, long before SCRT came out. As a Capacity Analyst, it's the simplest way to identify systems uniquely. So, I don't find

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 20:49, Ted MacNEIL pisze: 4. (unrelated to original problem, but related to SCRT). IMO requirement for unique SMF ID is silly and technically unfounded. I disagree. I've always had unique SMF id's, long before SCRT came out. As a Capacity Analyst, it's the simplest way to

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No. The simplest way is to use identifier which is always unique, i.e. LPARname optionally qualified with CPC serial. None of those are in the type 89, iirc. The only guarantee is the SMFID, which is in the common header section for all SMF records, identifying which system cut the record.

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 21:22, Ted MacNEIL pisze: No. The simplest way is to use identifier which is always unique, i.e. LPARname optionally qualified with CPC serial. None of those are in the type 89, iirc. Bad assumption. See documentation. Last, but not least: I see nothing wrong in CHANGE. It

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And, many disciplines, such as capacity planning. Example: type 30, type 110 do not have serial numbers, LPAR names, etc. Type 72, 74, etc don't have them either. So what? I don't see any relationship to 110 or 30. Then obviously you've never done Capacity Planning, Performance Management or