Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman wrote: From: Rick Fochtman Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman wrote: From: Rick Fochtman Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a customer shop to choose the RIGHT 24 hours to model. They can p

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Rick Fochtman > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:23 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a customer shop to > choose the RIGHT 24 hours to model. Th

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
VS IO performance. I don't think Shane was referring to anyone in that category. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:35 PM To: IB

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
nd put to bed at the outset. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:47 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
27, 2010 1:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > -- - > > >>That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate > >>descr

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>that this sort of warranty protects the performance guy at a customer site >from actually having to understand IO performance. Cheap shot - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate description of what they want to have modeled. SMF has a lot of really good averages, but very little in the way of detailed access patterns. Can you

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
tent. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Shane > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 5:57 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > > That's a good idea, pr

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Shane
> That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate > description of what they want to have modeled. SMF has a lot of really good > averages, but very little in the way of detailed access patterns. > > Can you tell skip sequential access from random with a Type 74 record? C

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
hardson > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > I say get the vendors to provide the tools and/or analysis to prove their > claims. > > They may ask for SMF data from the existing envir

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-26 Thread Bruce Richardson
I say get the vendors to provide the tools and/or analysis to prove their claims. They may ask for SMF data from the existing environment to put through their modeling tools. Make sure they ask for specific SMF record types, as you do not want to send huge volumes of SMF data to the vendors. M

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-26 Thread Hal Merritt
Just my $0.02. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools Hal, I don't this is a hard and fast rule to go b

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
t: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:00 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > Save yourself some time. The PA/IODRIVER is not free. > > Bill Fairchild > Rocket Software > > -Original Message- > From: I

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
DASD performance tools PA/IODRIVER http://www.perfassoc.com/ Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? -- For

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
2010 7:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > Hi all, > Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any > free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CIC

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Staller, Allan
PA/IODRIVER http://www.perfassoc.com/ Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Hal Merritt > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools > > The bottom line in DASD performance is response time. RMF reports that. > >

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Hal Merritt
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Test DASD performance tools Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch perform

Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? Many thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr