In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/25/2007
at 09:42 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
801 was originally targeted (very) low-end ... ROMP chip was targeted
to be used in a displaywriter follow-in ... when that project was
killed, the group looked around for something to save the effort
More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me...
Re VAX vs. IBM:
I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the
engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the
installed base of the VAX machines. Never.
Re RISC vs. 68K:
Phil Smith III wrote:
More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me...
Re VAX vs. IBM:
I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the
engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the
installed base of the VAX machines. Never.
One of the more interesting PCs was the very expensive Heathkit that
came as a kit. I wonder what the marked was for it.
My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such
advancements as lower case letters!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Re VAX vs. IBM:
I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the
engineering side of the fight
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Re RISC vs. 68K:
Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They
just need to check the dates.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:14:15 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such
advancements as lower case letters!
Oh, my second floppy driver for the Atari was a Z-80 powered drive
with 64K of RAM. Besides working quite well, I was able to
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#18 The Development of the Vital IBM PC
in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
the place that 43xx had the most
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Miya) writes:
No, the most difficult competition was and is against the IBM PC.
If it did so well, we'd see more evidence of it being
I forwarded the thread to a friend who was there at the time; here's his
response.
...phsiii
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Cool! Thanks.
My own addition would be in the category of what might be called business
history. By the 1980s IBM was struggling in the mini and super-mini business.
IBM had 5 hardware
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Which is the end of the story, boys and girls. For, while so many
people focus on how the PC has damaged the
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/22/2007
at 12:34 PM, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
That hardware box had all the engineering characteristics of the
original PC - 8088 processor, same storage options, 2 floppies - as I
remember. However, the software was closed.
Don't forget
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:03:05 -0600, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
and/or corporate marketing ... majority of the people in the period ...
didn't understand what personal computing and/or PC software actually
met ... marketing such abstractions would have little meaning
(sufficient
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:05:32 -0500, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Then I saw the price, shuddered, and quickly came back to reality.
A couple of years later I saw a Macintosh at a fraction of the price;
but once again it was WAY out of my budget.
Recently there have been a series of
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If anyone wants to check what's being said, here's the Google Groups URL for
supposedly Today's most active topic:
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Frank McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yup ... As *would* have happened with the PC itself if they'd been
that tight-assed with it. They just didn't *get* the
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Microsoft Windows dominates the world today for the same reason - it's
the _de facto_ standard for which you have the best chance of getting
software. But it only became a success in the beginning because it
*did* offer
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:22:15 -0600, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
as i've mentioned before ... the other market force was that the
previous personal computers had been do-it-yourself and hobbiest market.
individuals had to justify the cost of the box for their own personal
interest ... that included
On 18 Jun 2007 11:48:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
How many bought PCs without Windows and then decided to buy Windows?
Or even who bought PCs without DOS and then decided to buy DOS?
SNIP
Better yet, try to buy a NAME computer that doesn't have an O/S, or has
Linux (any
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The public history of the PC began in August 1981, when IBM first
announced 'The IBM Personal Computer.' . This was The original
PC.
Spam, and reported to Google. At least the version Copscape found on the ezine
site has been
spell checked. Still makes as little sense.
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