USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-21 Thread Cwi Jeret
We have Implemented Shared HFS in Our Sysplex with 4 Members , a few months ago. Now, we want to upgrade the SYSTEM of 1 of the 4 members of the sysplex with an Updated ROOT ,as part of Maintenace service for that system , but leaving the 3 other members in the old state. As reccomended in "UN

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-21 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cwi Jeret Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade We have Implemented Shared HFS in Our Sysplex with 4 Members , a few months ago. Now, we

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:12:01 -0600, Cwi Jeret wrote: >We have Implemented Shared HFS in Our Sysplex with 4 Members , >a few months ago. > >Now, we want to upgrade the SYSTEM of 1 of the 4 members of >the sysplex with an Updated ROOT ,as part of Maintenace service for that >system , but leaving th

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:18:44 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: [...] >There is no requirement for the "directory" >file system, but I've seen a shop's sysplex root grow because all of >the directories / mount points were getting created within the sysplex >root. This eventually led to a sysplex wide IPL

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:44:08 -0600, Arthur Gutowski wrote: >On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:18:44 -0600, Mark Zelden > wrote: >[...] >>There is no requirement for the "directory" >>file system, but I've seen a shop's sysplex root grow because all of >>the directories / mount points were getting created wi

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
I'm having trouble understanding why an IPL'ed system's sysres and USS files are being used for cloning. I've always used a "staging" concept wherein the SMP/E target sysres and USS file(s) for each running z/OS release are * never* IPLed. This relieves a lot of issues and provides a "base", if

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:31:05 -0500, Guy Gardoit wrote: >I'm having trouble understanding why an IPL'ed system's sysres and USS files >are being used for cloning. I've always used a "staging" concept wherein >the SMP/E target sysres and USS file(s) for each running z/OS release are * >never* IPLe

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
Actually, they don't. They are only mounted (to a /service' directory in the sandbox system) when service is applied; unmounted when service application is complete. The way I do staging is to NEVER used the staging resvol(s) nor $VERSION FS(s) files for an IPL'ed system. They are only used for

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:15:43 -0500, Guy Gardoit wrote: >Actually, they don't. They are only mounted (to a /service' directory in >the sandbox system) when service is applied; unmounted when service >application is complete. The way I do staging is to NEVER used the staging >resvol(s) nor $VERSI

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
If all systems in a plex are IPLed from the new sysres-root combo, the "old" FS are not mounted anywhere and can be deleted by the clone job. And, yes, it does take a "perfect" world to get each sysplex to be on *one* set of resvol(s) and one $VERSION root FS but I guess I have lived in a perfe

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:52:49 -0500, Guy Gardoit wrote: >We don't always do sysplex-wide IPLs but roll out the new sysres-root combo >to all members of our plexes as soon as "doable". Once all systems in a plex >are on the new "set", the "old" set is not mounted anywhere. I don't >understand why

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
Eh! I do apologize. The first step in the clone job performs a Rexx exec that ensures no system in the plex is running from the target resvol and also dis-mounts the associated FS. So routine that I forgot what the job does! Guy Gardoit z/OS Systems Programming On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:13 P

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS - Version Ugrade

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:40:14 -0500, Guy Gardoit wrote: >Eh! I do apologize. The first step in the clone job performs a Rexx exec >that ensures no system in the plex is running from the target resvol and >also dis-mounts the associated FS. So routine that I forgot what the job >does! > >Guy G