I interpreted the "can live without" as just an affirmation that
applications could continue to access the volume without failure while
the index delete/rebuild was in progress, not as a recommendation for
running that way long-term.
We used to not put a VTOCIX on our spool volumes either, unt
But, the error message doesn't mention a VVDS.
Ted, you're right. I meant the IXVTOC not the VVDS- mind is working but
fingers don't do what they're told...
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Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>> Note that a nonSMS volume can live without a VTOC index.
>>
>
> But, it performs better with one.
> IBM Canada always recommended putting one on the pack, even before SMS was
> announced.
>
> Because
>
> You also find free space.
> -
> Too busy driving to stop for ga
>
>NO ROOM IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX
>
>you can use ICKDSF's EXTVTOC to enlarge the vtoc but it sounds like you just
>need to have a larger VVDS
But, the error message doesn't mention a VVDS.
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>Note that a nonSMS volume can live without a VTOC index.
But, it performs better with one.
IBM Canada always recommended putting one on the pack, even before SMS was
announced.
Because
You also find free space.
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] <
obrie...@mail.nih.gov> wrote:
> Why don't you just delete unneeded DSNs and then retry the EXTVTOC or
> better yet use NEWVTOC.
> Extvtoc only works if the area next to the existing VTOC is free. Newvtoc
> will re-locate the Vtoc.
>
"O'Brien wrote:
> Why don't you just delete unneeded DSNs and then retry the EXTVTOC or better
> yet use NEWVTOC.
> Extvtoc only works if the area next to the existing VTOC is free. Newvtoc
> will re-locate the Vtoc.
> Example follows:
> REFORMAT UNIT(0E9F) NVTOC(ANY,90) VERIFY(HSM140)
>
In a message dated 5/6/2009 10:16:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
paul-g...@cox.net writes:
Do I have to:
backup the volume.
v volume offline.
re-init volume (with bigger vtoc).
v volume online
restore back?
The volume is NOT sms managed.
Is there another way?
>>
Need to read ICKDSF manual!
Why don't you just delete unneeded DSNs and then retry the EXTVTOC or better
yet use NEWVTOC.
Extvtoc only works if the area next to the existing VTOC is free. Newvtoc will
re-locate the Vtoc.
Example follows:
REFORMAT UNIT(0E9F) NVTOC(ANY,90) VERIFY(HSM140)
You might want to re-define your Ind
John Kelly wrote:
>
> NO ROOM IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX
>
>
> you can use ICKDSF's EXTVTOC to enlarge the vtoc but it sounds like you
> just need to have a larger VVDS
>
> Jack Kelly
> 202-502-2390 (Office)
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NO ROOM IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX
you can use ICKDSF's EXTVTOC to enlarge the vtoc but it sounds like you
just need to have a larger VVDS
Jack Kelly
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Jodlowski
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:38 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: VTOC Full
>
> Getting the following error:
>
> IEF254I TESTE
Paul Jodlowski wrote:
> Getting the following error:
>
> IEF254I TESTEMPR STEP3 EM07L7 - NO SPACE IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX
> IGD17002I NO ROOM IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX ON VOLUME USERB2
> FOR DATA SET TST.EM70L7.G1327V00
>
> I went to 3.4 screen and display'd VTOC info and VTOC is 93% used!
>
Getting the following error:
IEF254I TESTEMPR STEP3 EM07L7 - NO SPACE IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX
IGD17002I NO ROOM IN VTOC OR VTOC INDEX ON VOLUME USERB2
FOR DATA SET TST.EM70L7.G1327V00
I went to 3.4 screen and display'd VTOC info and VTOC is 93% used!
Do I have to:
backup the volume.
v
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
05/15/2007
at 02:56 PM, Robert Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390?
You can dynamically expand an existing VTOC. Fixing a corrupted or
destroyed VTOC is much hairier.
>If so what utility would work?
expand into otherwise you have to
move files. Thanks all.
Have a Nice Day !
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VTOC FULL
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Subject: Re: VTOC FULL
ICKDSF Release 17 can expand a VTOC. I've never tried though.
This is what the manual says:
//SYSIN DD *
REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16)
The example above expands both VTOC and VTOC
ICKDSF Release 17 can expand a VTOC. I've never tried though.
This is what the manual says:
//SYSIN DD *
REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16)
The example above expands both VTOC and VTOC INDEX.
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At 15:21 -0400 on 05/15/2007, Lizette Koehler wrote about Re: VTOC FULL:
I am not aware of a vendor product that could do that on the fly.
However, if they could it would rely on the tracks next to the vtoc
being empty (ie. no data sets on them.)
I have an impression that there is a utility
Thanks.
H
Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC?
>>
Yes! Usually the INDEXed VTOC is next to the OSVTOC and it was the one
suffering the damage.
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In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:35:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC?
>>
Yes! Usually the INDEXed VTOC is next to the OSVTOC and it was the one
suffering the damage.
** See what'
Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC?
Have a Nice Day !
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:20:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:20:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again.
>>
There were a few blurps at that level of DSF where it would do it the expand
without calculating the space correctly overl
Bob,
I think your answer is to offload all datasets to tape, clip/init the pack with
a bigger VTOC and then reload everything back down. If it is SMS managed, then
you would QUINEW the pack, allow it to drain and then do the clip/init and put
it back in the storage group. Or make a new volume
: Re: VTOC FULL
Robert Pelletier wrote:
> Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If
> so what utility would work? Thanks all.
>
>
> Have a Nice Day !
>
> Bob Pelletier
> Connecticut Student Loan Fou
Robert Pelletier wrote:
Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so
what utility would work? Thanks all.
Have a Nice Day !
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
--
Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so
what utility would work? Thanks all.
Have a Nice Day !
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
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