Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- ROUTE *ALL,V ,ONLINE or OFFLINE Command processing got so backed up that automation failed to respond to some message traps for over an hour! The problem turned out to be 'aggregation', one system's attempt to gather responses from multiple systems and display them all at once. It

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Mueller, David
343 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline) There was a book tit

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe McKown, John wrote: COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this. -- Edward E Jaffe Why even bother with COMMAND? // VARY cuu,OFFLINE wor

Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Kirk Talman
There was a book titled "Games People Play." It can be very effective to ask an auditor (in a less than direct way) to play the game found in the book called "Let's you and him/her fight" to achieve your goals that involve uncooperative or not knowledgeable persons, particularly those not in y

Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Mueller, David
PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary devices online and offline Good auditors are very helpful! And as rare as atmosphe

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:12:15 -0400, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Rob Scott wrote: >> In the "old" days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause system problems - I am not sure if that has been fixed yet. > > >In z/OS R7, the code was changed to attach up to 32 subtasks to proc

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread John Eells
Rob Scott wrote: In the "old" days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause system problems - I am not sure if that has been fixed yet. In z/OS R7, the code was changed to attach up to 32 subtasks to process VARY OFFLINE commands in parallel. In z/OS R8, it was changed to do the

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > > McKown, John wrote: > >> COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this. > >> > >> -- > >> Edward E Jaffe > > > > Why even bother with COMMAND? > > > > // VARY cuu,OFFLINE > > > > works for me. > > Hmp

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FRASER, Brian > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Vary devices online and offline > > > I find Auditors pret

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread FRASER, Brian
I find Auditors pretty useless too. ;) > Just be aware that many (most?) installations disallow instream commands in > JCL. Auditors usually have a fit over this (ancient) capability. I find them pretty useless anyway. You can't guarantee the timing, and basically are out of your control. Same

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
: Vary devices online and offline Hi Rob, If I go to your Web site and I click on MXI, I get : Login Shopping Cart Error 500An application error has occurred and an administrator has been notified of the problem. If you would like to provide additional information about what happened or if

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:44:41 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > >"The COMMAND statement is the preferred way within the job control >language to specify commands, rather than using the JCL command >statement, which is described in Chapter 8, "JCL Command Statement" in >topic 8.0. That is because the COMM

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 14:32 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: > Just be aware that many (most?) installations disallow instream commands in > JCL. Auditors usually have a fit over this (ancient) capability. I find them pretty useless anyway. You can't guarantee the timing, and basically are out of your

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Skip Robinson wrote: Just be aware that many (most?) installations disallow instream commands in JCL. Auditors usually have a fit over this (ancient) capability. But OK, I'll bite: what is COMMAND? http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b670/9.0 "The COMMAND stateme

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 27, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Rob Scott wrote: If you fancy your hand at assembler, there is the IEEVARYD service - this is the recommended way of varying a large number of devices offline at once. In the "old" days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause system problems - I am

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this. -- Edward E Jaffe Why even bother with COMMAND? // VARY cuu,OFFLINE works for me. Hmph! I didn't know you could do that! Where is it documented? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Anton Britz
Hi Rob, If I go to your Web site and I click on MXI, I get : Login Shopping Cart Error 500An application error has occurred and an administrator has been notified of the problem. If you would like to provide additional information about what happened or if you need assistance, please c

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Vary devices online and offline > > > Lizette Koehler wro

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Bob Shannon
>I have some sample source using IEEVARYD in the VARYDASD utility on >>www.mximvs.com - you might be able to tailor that program to suit your >needs We use Rob's VARYDASD utility, and actually used it before he was hired. It allows providing multiple volser masks as input. If the vary is a simp

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Lizette Koehler wrote: You can use the $VS function or the JCL COMMAND function. Though I am not sure if you are JES2 or JES3. I use this under JES2. For JCL, I now use // COMMAND,'VARY -,OFFLINE' COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Softwa

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry - the COMMAND statement should have been: // COMMAND 'VARY -,OFFLINE' No comman after the word COMMAND. Lizette > >You can use the $VS function or the JCL COMMAND function. Though I am not >sure if you are JES2 or JES3. I use this under JES2. > >For JCL, I now use > >//

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/27/2007 2:49:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If the address are in order, you could enter V da00-da01,offline And reduce the number of commands you have to issue. You can also enter V (DA00-DA01,DA08-DAFF,DB83-DB89,...etc.),OFFLINE to redu

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Rob Scott
ssion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll Sent: 27 August 2007 20:48 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary devices online and offline If the address are in order, you could enter V da00-da01,offline And reduce the number of commands you have to issue. Wayne Drisco

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
You can use the $VS function or the JCL COMMAND function. Though I am not sure if you are JES2 or JES3. I use this under JES2. For JCL, I now use // COMMAND,'VARY -,OFFLINE' Lizette > >We are z/OS V1R7. I have a need to vary online and offline a large number of >DASD volume

Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Wayne Driscoll
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Vary devices online and offline We are z/OS V1R7. I have a need to vary online and offline a large number of DASD volumes. What would be the best way to perform this. I have used the following

Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-27 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R7. I have a need to vary online and offline a large number of DASD volumes. What would be the best way to perform this. I have used the following JCL, but was wondering if there way a better way. //STEP010 EXEC PGM=IEBEDIT,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*