WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said: 2. Bring WSA back from the dead and fix it. Is this the dreaded ISPGUI? I'd favor an approach which writes classic 327x data streams to a socket, and instructions for modifying an open-source x3270 client to fun

ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-21 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: 2. Bring WSA back from the dead and fix it. Back from the dead? Not unlike Mark Twain's experience, the rumors of WSA's demise were greatly exaggerated. WSA isn't dead. But it's astonishing how many people believe that it is. A rumor got started that Rale

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your idea of passing 327x streams to a socket is weak compared to what WSA already does. You're making the classic mistake of confusing the WSA (Workstation Agent) with the ISPF GUI. The ISPF GUI is just one component of the WSA. Other capabilities o

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Dave Salt wrote: Ed, I can't believe it. I wrote my response about the WSA (and even renamed the subject to 'WSA versus ISPGUI') before reading your response. Our comments about the WSA being confused with ISPGUI were almost identical! That's what generally happens when you state obvious

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) Is that in any way similar to a workstation connection, or are they 2 different things? :-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/22/2005 1:17:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) >> Probably need a new number for psychic friends Help Desk. 'I've got a

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 10/22/2005 1:17:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) Probably need a new numb

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-21 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the rumors of WSA's demise were greatly exaggerated. WSA isn't dead. But it's astonishing how many people believe that it is. I use the WSA every single day; mostly for transfering files to and from the mainframe, but also for browsing/editing/printi

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>rumors of WSA's demise were greatly exaggerated ... There was a paper out there a couple of years ago explaining in simple terms how to set it up. I tried it; it worked well until we went DHCP and I couldn't guarantee my PC IP address was a constant. Two questions: 1. Does anybody know of thi

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-21 Thread Dave Salt
From: Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There was a paper out there a couple of years ago explaining in simple terms how to set it (WSA) >up. I tried it; it worked well until we went DHCP and I couldn't guarantee my PC IP address was a >constant. Two questions: 1. Does anybody know of this paper

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:19:29 -0700 > > In a fairly recent conversation on this subject, the ISPF development > team in OZ suggested that if I had specific requirements for WSA, they > would be interested to hear what they were. > Still wonderi

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Still wondering: is WSA the same as ISPGUI? No, they're 2 completely different things. ISPGUI requires the WSA, just like WordPad requires Windows. But that doesn't make them the same. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a m

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-24 Thread David Andrews
Dave and Ed make me want to take another look at the WSA (yes, I was one of those who looked at ISPGUI, said "yuck", and walked away). Unfortunately, Linux support doesn't appear to be available - not at my downlevel OS release anyway. Have they fixed this? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, In

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-24 Thread Dave Salt
From: David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave and Ed make me want to take another look at the WSA (yes, I was one of those who looked at ISPGUI, said "yuck", and walked away). Unfortunately, Linux support doesn't appear to be available - not at my downlevel OS release anyway. Have they fixed this

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-25 Thread Big Iron
You can supply a host name as the target of the GUI. So, if the machine name of your workstation doesn't change and you use both DHCP & DDNS, then you don't need to use an IP address. Worked for me, anyway. Bill On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>rumors

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/21/2005 at 03:19 PM, "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Back from the dead? Not unlike Mark Twain's experience, the rumors >of WSA's demise were greatly exaggerated. The rumors were that it was functionally stabilized. Given it's current limitations, tha

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Gray Maddry
- modified for brevity From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator) Well, the obvious requirements are 1. Allow multiline text

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Kline
> I would add support for more PC editors. I don't use the GUI interface, > but do like to edit on the PC especially for the cut&paste. Do any of the PC editors support cutting just selected columns from multiple lines? For example, on TN3270 I can cut and paste columns 10-20 from rows 2-5, and do

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Martin Kline wrote: I would add support for more PC editors. I don't use the GUI interface, but do like to edit on the PC especially for the cut&paste. Do any of the PC editors support cutting just selected columns from multiple lines? For example, on TN3270 I can cut and paste columns 10

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 27 Oct 2005 09:03:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Kline) wrote: >Do any of the PC editors support cutting just selected columns from >multiple lines? For example, on TN3270 I can cut and paste columns 10-20 >from rows 2-5, and do NOT get columns 1-9 or beyond column 20 for any line. > >When

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/27/2005 11:03:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try this on any of the PC editors I've used, they want to copy columns 10 through end-of-line from row 2, all of rows 3-4, and columns 1- 20 from row 5. That just never works out too well for

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-27 Thread Gray Maddry
authorized state official. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Kline Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator) > I would add support for more PC editors

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-28 Thread Phil Smith III
Gray Maddry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That kind of cutting is sometimes called block or column mode and many PC >editors support that. Ultraedit, ConText, Crimson Editor to name three. And Kedit, which is a CMS XEDIT clone and is thus a lot closer to ISPF than most (and is highly customizable)

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/28/2005 at 07:17 AM, Phil Smith III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And Kedit, which is a CMS XEDIT clone No, it's missing key pieces of XEDIT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see