Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-26 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Peter, https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA15228 Do you have any specific references for how you are indicating that the region inheritance works? Sorry for the late reply to your question, Rob I had done some tests some years ago but unfortunately I can't find the results

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-19 Thread Mark Zelden
Speaking of my REXXSTOR exec, based on a recent conversation with an IBM developer using it as a model, I have updated the exec to show LSQA usage and changed the region available calculation to be more accurate. I won't mention the person's name as they may wish to remain anonymous, but I will

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
The OMVS environment DOES NOT RUN IN YOUR TSO ADDRESS SPACE! This is not true! The OMVS TSO command processor has got an option SHAREAS|NOSHAREAS (the former being the default) to tell it whether to run the shell in the TSO address space or not. -- Peter Hunkler

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
And just for the rest of the view... the User's OMVS segment can contain an ASSIZEMAX to set the memory size for an address space running under Unix System Services. No, it's not that simple. Basically, forked and non-locally spawned processes, which will run in an address space different from

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Check out z/OS UNIX System Services Command Reference z/OS UNIX System Services User's Guide z/OS UNIX System Services Programming: Assembler Callable Services for _BPX_SHAREAS ...and the non-standard functions attach_exec() and attach_execmvs() -- Peter Hunkeler

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-12 Thread Rob Schramm
Peter, https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA15228 Do you have any specific references for how you are indicating that the region inheritance works? Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b2306bed...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net, on 08/12/2011 at 10:41 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com said: As you me mentioned, logging in to a shell via TSO OMVS does not follow the above rule. The TSO commands for Unix support are not

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/10/2011 at 09:50 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: The OMVS environment DOES NOT RUN IN YOUR TSO ADDRESS SPACE! It doesn't run in the same process, but depending on how you're configured you can have

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rowe
I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by definition, each process was a separate address space. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/10/2011

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock
On 8/11/2011 8:25 AM, Scott Rowe wrote: I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought that, by definition, each process was a separate address space. Check out z/OS UNIX System Services Command Reference z/OS UNIX System Services User's Guide z/OS UNIX System Services Programming: Assembler

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread McKown, John
Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install I would be happy to be corrected, but I thought

Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Randy Hoekstra
I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors with a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any suggestions?

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread McKown, John
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors with a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Randy, See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here: http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133 (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available region size from

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread McKown, John
and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install John, I

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Don Poitras
Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.) http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt Kirk Wolf wrote: Randy, See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Zelden
Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the region size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented somewhere in the manuals. Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find where it is documented. :-) -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Duh, I'm not sure what I forgot about your REXX LDA tool... I've even used it myself before :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the

Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Don Poitras
Mark, While I'm looking at this, there is one odd aspect I'd like to understand. Maybe you know this. Even though the LDA shows the region (LIMIT and SIZE) as coming from TSO when run under TSO or TSO OMVS and RACF OMVS segment when run under the native shell, I'm not sure where region requested

Re: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Rob Schramm
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't get around the FSUM9225