Re: basic questions about machine instructions

2010-08-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Are there optimizers for library languages such as C? Or isn't that considered important anymore? -- Optimizers can help BUT: 1: they can't always

Re: basic questions about machine instructions

2010-08-12 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: basic questions about machine instructions > > On 12 Aug 2010

Re: basic questions about machine instructions

2010-08-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Aug 2010 06:35:34 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >So the programmers don't even need to understand machine architecture any >more. >Unfortunately, this leads them to write poorly performing code due to a total >lack of >understanding of even basic knowledge of

Re: basic questions about machine instructions

2010-08-12 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: basic questions about machine instructions > > > Moreove

Re: basic questions about machine instructions

2010-08-12 Thread john gilmore
I very largely agree with Gerhard Postpischl's comments. The question of the effects of new machine instructions on execution times does, however, require further comment. The first, surpassingly obvious thing that must be said about new instructions is that not every mainframe currently i