Sorry to be so late in chiming in, but some health issues have limited
my online-time, and I'm playing catch-up.
The reference to the Secret Service's mainframe "60-percent uptime"
reminded me of an issue from 30-some years ago. I was called on the
carpet because the supervisor of our remote
Shane Ginnane wrote:
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly sniggering in the
shadows.
We can probably all agree the machine will ship second half this year - so let's say announcement July,
shipping October.
That means several of the usual suspects on thi
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Suppose they offload Java to the blades; discontinue the
> zAAps; and declare an armistice with Neon zPrime?
Now that would be interesting!
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On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:05:13 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>In particular, how would you see these being used?
>what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
>the same box as z-engines (vs separate boxes)?
>
Suppose they offload Java to the blades; discontinue the
zAAps; and de
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Scott Rowe wrote:
> There are probably quite a few other members of this list who know quite a
> bit, but are under NDA, and can't discuss it.
>
Sure, but it's been discussed publicly at user group meetings. If you have a
local user group and haven't been attend
There are probably quite a few other members of this list who know quite a bit,
but are under NDA, and can't discuss it.
>>> Shane Ginnane 5/26/2010 7:56 AM >>>
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly
sniggering in the
shadows.
We can probably all agree t
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly
sniggering in the
shadows.
We can probably all agree the machine will ship second half this year - so
let's say announcement July,
shipping October.
That means several of the usual suspects on this list already have
>Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
>frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
>x64 "blades"?
>
>In particular, how would you see these being used?
>what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
>the same box as z-
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
> ---
> In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements from
> many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and only
> organization that und
Kirk Wolf wrote:
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 "blades"?
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power o
Ken Porowski wrote:
http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e
ither-way-its-coming-soon
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
LOL. They *always* refer to the upcoming System z hardware release as
zNext until it's of
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On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and x64
"blades"?
In particular, how would you see these being used? What advant
---
In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements
from many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and
only organization that understand multiple aspects of the business and
how they work (
>One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire.
Since it seems to be every two years, 34 appears to be the better estimate.
By then, with the 'technology dividend' a 9000 MIPS processor will be less than
an MSU.
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On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:17:08 -0500, Rick Fochtman
wrote:
>Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the
>z28 ??? :-)
>
One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire.
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:31 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming
Soon!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
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Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the
z28 ??? :-)
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
>
> On a related topic -
>
> Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
> frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
> x64 "blades"?
>
> In particular, how
>And when libraries get updated, we can get burned if we don't understand how
>updated specifications apply or don't apply to our business.
Yes, I know.
I worked for an international wholesaler, with 34 offices in 23 countries, and
(especially) applib updates always caused grief.
Sometimes,
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:05 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's
> Coming Soo
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 "blades"?
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
the
On 25 May 2010 12:37:52 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
>>Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first
>>processing being illegal...).
>
>In the US, maybe.
>I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed.
>
>People in the US have to realise that
>
> Furthermore, management is quick to point out that the IT folks
> are not responsive to the "rapid change of business needs", yet
> management will not fund training in new or updated technologies
> for their staff (nor even for conceptual updates for themselves).
>
> While I'm at it, another
>Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first processing
>being illegal...).
In the US, maybe.
I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed.
People in the US have to realise that not all of their laws apply to other
countries.
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Too busy driving to stop fo
Chris Craddock wrote:
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John <
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:
Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are still
stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No
RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Chris Craddock
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, M
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John <
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:
> Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are still
> stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No
> RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do run some 3270 "s
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's
> Coming Soon!
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Ken Porowski
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!
>
>
http
In a message dated 5/25/2010 10:59:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ken.porow...@cit.com writes:
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
>>
More likely z EOD
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From: Mark Pace
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:43:19 -0400
zTheFollowUp
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM
zTheFollowUp
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Ken Porowski wrote:
> http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e
> ither-way-its-coming-soon
>
>
> If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
> zAfterNext ?
>
> -
http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e
ither-way-its-coming-soon
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
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