Re: command=verify

2013-06-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-05 00:49, gsg pisze: We have been told by auditors that all of our JES2 JOBCLASSes should have COMMAND=VERIFY. This would protect from someone coding an unauthorized command in a JCL that could go undetected. Has anyone else ran into this type of problem and if so, how did you

Re: command=verify

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka pisze: >Yes, there is a solution, quite good IMHO. It is called OPERCMDS - a RACF >class. >Instead of operator decision I strongly prefer the rules enforced by security >server. Indeed. Ability to block commands despite source [1] is still the best. Here, I agree to agree wit

Re: command=verify

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: >Have IT management "risk accept" they way you need. Then tell the auditors >that. Auditors do not have any authority beyond what management gives them. Agreed. Actually, as Ted always said, auditors only recommends. They cannot enforce. >This assumes management has tener c

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-05 Thread Baby Eklavya
Hello Robert , Changing the wait interval from 500 Milliseconds to 3 secs on Jobtrac might introduce a small delay on all other auto-sched jobs that goes through normal conversion phase which we dont want .Instead ,I would go with your first solution to flag the JCLLIB datasets as non-migrate .

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
An attempt to migrate an APF authorized library will result in the following: ARC1299I rc=14 where 14The data set is an authorized program facility (APF) authorized library. Unless of course the migration is running on an L

z/os 1.13 and BCPII internal protocol

2013-06-05 Thread Itschak Mugzach
IBM states that it uses an internal protocol that replaces the old SNMP one. from the installation guide, it is clear that they use SNMP (community name is defined on both HMC and BCPII) but it runs from the SE to the HMC over private lan. So, what exactly is this "private protocol"? ITschak

Re: FCP CHIP id

2013-06-05 Thread Michael W. Moss
If you add an LPAR, you typically increase the number of devices by 100%, and if you add 2 LPAR’s, then by 200% and so on. So, if you have 64 devices defined on your FCP channel, 1 LPAR is 64 devices, 20 LPAR’s is 1280 devices. In this instance, your limit is 480 devices, as per the CBDA291I me

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread David Crayford
One would expect reads to be faster with ZFS because of the caching but what astonished me was the efficiency of writes. Writes to a ZFS file system were well over 10x faster than QSAM. I profiled the tests and QSAM spent most of it's time waiting for I/O to complete. BSAM was worse. Maybe if we

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: >An attempt to migrate an APF authorized library will result in the following: >ARC1299I rc=14 where >Unless of course the migration is running on an LPAR where said library is not >APF authorized. Good catch. You can avoid this nasty surprise by placing al

Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Please don't tell me that with a DSS copy operation with RENAMEU the Data Class ACS routine isn't called. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe... The loud ones only take the credit. Londo Mollari - Babylon 5 -

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-05 Thread Rafal Hanzel
I did it about month ago: 1. stop tcpip 2. SET OMVS=01 BPXPRM01 where I have INET commented out and these options for CINET: FILESYSTYPE TYPE(CINET) ENTRYPOINT(BPXTCINT) NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_INET) DOMAINNUMBER(2) MAXSOCKETS(64000) TYPE(CINET) INADDRANYPORT(2000) INADDRANYCOUNT(325) SUBFI

Re: z/os 1.13 and BCPII internal protocol

2013-06-05 Thread Anthony Thompson
No idea. Secret squirrel stuff. Do you really have a need to know? >From 'MVS Programming: Callable Services for High-Level Languages, Ch 14': "An SNMP community name is associated with a particular CPC. The same SNMP community name that was defined in the support element configuration for a part

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Jacobs wrote: >Please don't tell me that with a DSS copy operation with RENAMEU the Data >Class ACS routine isn't called. Logical Copy or Physical Copy? With or without REPLACE? There is a difference AFAIK. Or alternatively, please post what problem are you having plus any messages you'r

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Mark, Please reference section 11.6.4 ACS routines invoked for copying and importing data sets in z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMSdfp Storage Administration. The short answer to your question is No, the Data Class ACS routine is not invoked on a DSS Copy. -Original Message- From: Elardus Engelbrec

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/05/13 07:51, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Mark Jacobs wrote: Please don't tell me that with a DSS copy operation with RENAMEU the Data Class ACS routine isn't called. Logical Copy or Physical Copy? With or without REPLACE? There is a difference AFAIK. Or alternatively, please post what

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Jacobs wrote: >Logical copy without a replace. >The newly allocated SYSZFS dataset gets assigned the correct storage and >management class, but the data class assigned isn't from the ACS routine, but >from the source dataset. >I know the SMS routines are working since a regular allocation

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
Must make Eric Arthur Blair spin in his grave. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: ENF 54 (SDUMP event)

2013-06-05 Thread Peter Relson
>if no ENF signal, nothing to do . That seems to imply that if there were such an ENF signal there would be something (for your application, presumably) to do. That seems not to be a good idea. Can you explain? Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Understood. Can anyone give me some ideas on how to copy ZFS file systems from non-EAV volumes to EAV volumes when the Data Class that they're defined with doesn't have EATTR(OPT) assigned? I'm a little leery having our Storage Admin change the existing Data Class, I'd rather have the datasets

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-05 14:29, Mark Jacobs pisze: Understood. Can anyone give me some ideas on how to copy ZFS file systems from non-EAV volumes to EAV volumes when the Data Class that they're defined with doesn't have EATTR(OPT) assigned? I'm a little leery having our Storage Admin change the exist

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Radoslaw, Kindly refer to 11.6.5 ACS routines invoked for restoring, recalling, recovering, and converting data setsin the DFP Storage Admin. Manual DSS Restore does not invoke the Dataclass routine. -Original Message- From: R.S. [mailto:r.skoru...@bremultib

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/05/13 08:31, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2013-06-05 14:29, Mark Jacobs pisze: Understood. Can anyone give me some ideas on how to copy ZFS file systems from non-EAV volumes to EAV volumes when the Data Class that they're defined with doesn't have EATTR(OPT) assigned? I'm a little leery having ou

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-05 Thread John Gilmore
I have used of the PL/I preprocessor to modify client's COBOL source programs for many years. It is at once powerful and expressive; and its support for compile-time arrays, which can be used as lists, makes it easy to 'remember' the things one needs to know in order to make global changes in a

Re: ENF 54 (SDUMP event)

2013-06-05 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
This application is try to listening a list of signals, events (I find it useful), for example: - job END jes event - logrec event - Health Checker event - Different config changes etc. etc If an event occurs from the selected type, it writes, to a LOG stream, the event record as it is. I can

Re: z/os 1.13 and BCPII internal protocol

2013-06-05 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> IBM states that it uses an internal protocol that replaces the old SNMP > one. from the installation guide, it is clear that they use SNMP (community > name is defined on both HMC and BCPII) but it runs from the SE to the HMC > over private lan. > So, what exactly is this "private protocol"? My

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-05 14:37, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] pisze: Radoslaw, Kindly refer to 11.6.5 ACS routines invoked for restoring, recalling, recovering, and converting data setsin the DFP Storage Admin. Manual DSS Restore does not invoke the Dataclass routine. I don't have access to t

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Don Poitras
In article <51af2080.6080...@gmail.com> you wrote: > One would expect reads to be faster with ZFS because of the caching but > what astonished me was the efficiency of writes. Writes to a ZFS file > system were well over 10x faster than QSAM. I profiled the > tests and QSAM spent most of it's tim

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
poit...@pobox.com (Don Poitras) writes: > I don't know what IBM uses under the covers, but it's probably the same > thing that SAS/C did. Calculate the CCHHR from the byte offset and use > EXCP to read the block directly. No need to use POINT. FBS is guaranteed > not to have any short blocks, so t

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/05/13 08:55, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2013-06-05 14:37, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] pisze: Radoslaw, Kindly refer to 11.6.5 ACS routines invoked for restoring, recalling, recovering, and converting data setsin the DFP Storage Admin. Manual DSS Restore does not invoke the Dataclass r

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread David Crayford
BTW, is the reason FBS is fast for seeks because it makes it easier to calculate the track position for a POINT? I've never seen FBS used before. I don't know what IBM uses under the covers, but it's probably the same thing that SAS/C did. Calculate the CCHHR from the byte offset and use EXCP to

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
We'll need IBM to chime in for a definitive answer but my guess is that DFDSS invoked Idcams Define under the covers and that drove the ACS Dataclass routine. -Original Message- From: Mark Jacobs [mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Why couldn't it have done it the first time then? The world may never know. Mark Jacobs On 06/05/13 09:20, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: We'll need IBM to chime in for a definitive answer but my guess is that DFDSS invoked Idcams Define under the covers and that drove the ACS Dataclas

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Jacobs wrote: >> A last resort I would try IDCAMS REPRO to preallocated cluster. >Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner, but I broke up in laughter after it worked. Careful. Radoslaw's failing memory is still working... ;-D I'm glad for your part everything is Ok. Groete / Greetings Elardus

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Packer
I thought "s" stood for "standard" rather than "spanned". It's the "s" in VBS that's "spanned". But I can't answer your question. :-( Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.i

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: I/O Optimization >> BTW, is the reason FBS is fast for seeks because it makes it easier >> to

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/5/2013 7:19 AM, David Crayford wrote: BTW, is the reason FBS is fast for seeks because it makes it easier to calculate the track position for a POINT? I've never seen FBS used before. I don't know what IBM uses under the covers, but it's probably the same thing that SAS/C did. Calculate the

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
The 'S' in FBS does not stand for SPANNED. It stands for STANDARD meaning all the blocks are a standard size. There are a few cautions to using FBS files. Do not MOD data to a FBS file. A short block in an FBS file is a EOF condition. This means that if you luck out and fill the last buffer

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread J R
"Standard" for FBS, not "spanned". Spanned is for VBS. = > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 21:19:09 +0800 > From: dcrayf...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: I/O Optimization > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > >> BTW, is the reason FBS is fast for seeks because it makes it easier to > >> calculate the trac

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread John Gilmore
David Crayford wrote: Where does "spanned" come into play? Why does that make the difference? The short answer is that it does not come into play. For fixed-length records, S means 'standard', without short blocks. For variable-length records, S means 'spanned', a [logical] record may span a

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread John Gilmore
I agree with Chris Blaicher, but I should put the matter more brutally. It has important uses, but FBS is for experienced, highly competent people and only for them.. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscr

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:32:18 -0400, Blaicher, Christopher Y. wrote: > >Do not MOD data to a FBS file. A short block in an FBS file is a EOF >condition. This means that if you luck out and fill the last buffer of a >file, you can MOD to it, but 99 44/100 percent of the time it doesn't work and >

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:26:56 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >I've never seen FBS used before. I see it regularly for dumps that are processed by IPCS. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructi

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread John McKown
As I understand it, the filesystem knows the last byte written. With an FBA device, the access method reads that block and starts writing after the last used byte within the block. It then rewrites the entire block. I don't know why BSAM could not do something similar with FBS files. Of course, thi

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread John Gilmore
The overloaded 'S' is a gratuitous trap for novices, and QSAM could have been designed to write an initial dummy record of standard length when it allocated a DASD extent for a RECFM=FBS dataset. We live in an imperfect world in which, in particular, not everyone is perfectly prescient. John Gi

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
According to the FM; If REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is specified with the COPY command: • The SMS constructs already associated with the preallocated target data set remain the same. If the preallocated target data set is scratched and reallocated, the SMS constructs used are those returned by the ACS

Re: FCP CHIP id

2013-06-05 Thread Jake anderson
Hello Michael, We are actually migrating z10(2097-E26) to zEC12( 2827-H43) Mainframe. So, I have updated the Machine type model as well in HCD along with new LPAR defination. Initial I had 4 LPAR but I have added 6 more new LPAR. Also below are my defination of FCP chip id . CHPID

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-05 Thread Roland Kinsman
Hi John, "The SUPPRESS phrase makes the compiler output unusable to the Compuware post processor program. And we must use that because the version of Compuware we have (and have no support for..." First, I'm so sorry you no longer have support for Compuware tools. But there is a parameter for

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-05 Thread John McKown
Thanks very much. I'll pass that on to the person who maintains the Endevor processors. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Roland Kinsman wrote: > Hi John, > > "The SUPPRESS phrase makes the compiler output unusable to the Compuware > post processor program. And we must use that because the version

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-05 Thread Jim McAlpine
Excellent, thanks Rafal. I'll try that out next week. Jim McAlpine On 5 Jun 2013 12:49, "Rafal Hanzel" wrote: > I did it about month ago: > 1. stop tcpip > 2. SET OMVS=01 > BPXPRM01 where I have INET commented out and these options for CINET: > FILESYSTYPE TYPE(CINET) ENTRYPOINT(BPXTCINT) >

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-05 Thread esmie moo
I found the explantaion for a volume pool.  According to the doc :  A volume pool associates volumes from which data sets migrate with other volumes, to aid in the selection of target volumes for recall.     I checked the VATLIST and these vols are not in it.  Hence the reason for the ADDVOL.   T

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 6/5/2013 10:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: How, then, do OSes with native FBA filesystems manage to support appending to files? Couldn't QSAM have been designed to to likewise? Either they fill every block, or they keep a pointer. When xSAM was designed, every byte was precious, and most co

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Don Poitras
In article you wrote: > The 'S' in FBS does not stand for SPANNED. It stands for STANDARD meaning > all the blocks are a standard size. > There are a few cautions to using FBS files. > Do not MOD data to a FBS file. A short block in an FBS file is a EOF > condition. This means that if you

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 6/5/2013 9:55 AM, John Gilmore wrote: It has important uses, but FBS is for experienced, highly competent people and only for them.. Unfortunately you may replace FBS with any non-trivial computing concept, and still be correct. What's important is the work environment. With a couple of e

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Correct. VATLST deals with new dataset allocations for non-specific non-sms volumes. Volume pools deal with HSM Recalls to non-specific non-sms volumes. Similar concepts for different uses. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:33 AM, esmie moo wrote: > I found the explantaion for a volume pool. According

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
Ok, that is dynamic. But at least here, stoP TCPIP and fully down are close enough to the same that I'd still rather IPL :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-05 Thread John McKown
Same here. No TCPIP means no users because they are all TN3270 and HTTP connected. No users == down. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: > Ok, that is dynamic. But at least here, stoP TCPIP and fully down are > close enough to the same that I'd still rather IPL :) > > Dave Gibne

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-05 Thread Jim McAlpine
Well, we use the Dallas RDP centre which allows access via SNA as well as TCPIP so no IPL required here. Jim McAlpine On 5 Jun 2013 18:50, "John McKown" wrote: > Same here. No TCPIP means no users because they are all TN3270 and HTTP > connected. No users == down. > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:49:26 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > >It is still possible to add extra code to OPEN MOD to read the last >block, and adjust the buffers, but there is no business case for it. >Whenever direct addressing was convenient, I used BSAM or BDAM, and >handled MOD and short buf

Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Tom Sims
Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM require a CF for this? Thanks! Tom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the mes

Re: Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Rutledge
Tom Sims wrote: Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM require a CF for this? Thanks! It has been working quite happily in our basic sysplex. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arch

Re: Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Tom Sims
Thanks. /T From: Bob Rutledge To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, June 5, 2013 2:21:47 PM Subject: Re: Quick question about soft capping Tom Sims wrote: > Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM >require a CF for this?

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Where does "spanned" come into play? Why does that make the difference? An acronym conflict! I hate IBM's tendency to use the same letters (in the same position) to mean different things! vbS -- Variable Blocked Spanned fbS -- Fixed Blocked Standard (BTW: why "Standard"? What the H-E-Double-T

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 02:42:32 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >An acronym conflict! > It has been pointed out that one of the great challenges to be dealt with in the 21st Century is that there are only 17,576 possible three letter acronyms. -- gil -