Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >unfortuantely ibm management blocked me sending a replay for nearly a year >http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019 WTF? Why did they blocked you? Perhaps the reasons are written in your web-pages, but I have missed it. >I was being blamed for online compu

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:12:49 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >I''m not asking a question; I'm pointing out a false analogy. "TCP/IP, >in contrast, is blessedly tolerant." makes no sense. >... >I'm asking in what sense TCP/IP is more tolerant than SNA. It's >certainly not in the ability to

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have any tools like SAS SAS/MXG SAS/MICS EASYSMF? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Roger Lowe > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Which fonts are bein

Re: curious: volsers < 6 non-blank chars & non-numeric tape

2014-03-24 Thread John Gilmore
I was pleased by EJ's response. Moreover, it seems to me that ISVs, and thus Phoenix Software a fortiori, are "commercial" shops. It is not necessary to be a retrograde bank or insurance company to qualify as one. I have often inveighed here against what I take to be reactionary, fatuous, risk

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Roger Lowe
Yes - SAS and MXG On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 05:20:53 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Do you have any tools like > >SAS >SAS/MXG >SAS/MICS > >EASYSMF? > >Lizette > > >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Roger Lowe >> Sent

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-24 Thread Steve Conway
You can use /*ROUTE to route execution and/or SYSOUT to the local system, as well as remote systems. See Chapter 27 of the JCL Reference. I believe this meets your stated requirement of no extra setup, a simple JCL change to test, and so on. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP Hosting Ser

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread John Eells
Tom Ross wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David =20 Both of your statements are correct. Not only that, but you also need PTFs for four LE APARs and three Binder AP= ARs. But you can INSTALL COBOL 5.1 on z/OS 1.12 (according to the Prog

Re: Java Heap Size

2014-03-24 Thread Christian D
Is there a difference between the TSO region size and java maximum heap space size allowed in Running JVM ? For example if a TSO REGION size is kept as 8196, then what would be the maximum java space can be allowed for JVM with the region size. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Denis Gäbler wrote:

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes: > What you did, seemed Ok and great, now after all these years, but why > did they tried to get rid of you? Are they bored or just p*ssed off > because you are miles ahead? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#84 Difference between

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread DASDBILL2
>When the MVS RAS group originally tracked me down and called me up ... I thought they were going to ask me for help on correcting all the problems ... but the first thing they wanted to know was who my management chain was ... I then realized I was going to be in trouble ... they didn't actual

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread John Gilmore
John Eells wrote: It's not terribly unusual for the "driving system," or installation product level, requirements to be lower than the levels required to actually *run* a product. and of course this is the case. Anciently, rather primitive 'starter systems' were routinely used for SYSGENs and

old RJE 360 workstation mod - reflexivity

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
The current thread about reflexivity reminds me of an old program we tested in the mid-70's, before NJE, that was called the Iowa Workstation. It was a modification from the University of Iowa of the HRTPB360 program that came with JES2, that allowed it to run as a task on MVS instead of on an R

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread zMan
No, no, Bill. You're mistaken. That never happens. People are much too ethical for that. On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM, DASDBILL2 wrote: > >When the MVS RAS group originally tracked me down and called me up ... I > thought they were going to ask me for help on correcting all the > problems .

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 08:11, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:12:49 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >> >>I''m not asking a question; I'm pointing out a false analogy. "TCP/IP, >>in contrast, is blessedly tolerant." makes no sense. >>... >>I'm asking in what sense TCP/IP is more tol

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread John McKown
Would you be interested in a slightly used, but very lucrative stake in a bridge in NYC? On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, zMan wrote: > No, no, Bill. You're mistaken. That never happens. People are much too > ethical for that. > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM, DASDBILL2 wrote: > > > >W

Re: old RJE 360 workstation mod - reflexivity

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 12:03, Bill Godfrey wrote: > The current thread about reflexivity reminds me of an old program we tested > in the mid-70's, before NJE, that was called the Iowa Workstation. It was a > modification from the University of Iowa of the HRTPB360 program that came > with JES2, that

Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Mike Kovach
Can someone out there provide me with a link to a Z/OS Dynamic Allocation Subroutine?   Thanks Mike Kovach -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the mess

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread Chase, John
On which planet is that true? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of zMan > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems > > No, no, Bill.

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: you be interested in a slightly used, but very lucrative stake in a > bridge in NYC? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#84 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#87 Difference between MVS and z

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
z/OS MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide Document Number SA22-7608-17 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a8c1/26.0 Kolusu IBM Corporation IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/24/2014 09:30:17 AM: > From: Mike Kovach > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv

SHARE in Pittsburgh Call for Presentations

2014-03-24 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Share your opinions, experiences, lessons learned and fresh approaches as a speaker at SHARE in Pittsburgh, August 3-8, 2014. SHARE welcomes and encourages both first-time submitters and seasoned presenters to take part in this leading enterprise technology event. The deadline to submit a presen

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread John McKown
I use BPXWDYN. It is _simple_ to use (in _any_ language, even REXX and COBOL) and distributed by IBM with every z/OS system. ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZB6A0/6.0 On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Mike Kovach wrote: > Can someone out there provide me with

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Mike La Martina
And there is this: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r 12.bpxb600%2Fwdyn.htm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Kovach Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >well there is also this (about the same time) ... mentioned upthread, the MVS >RAS group would have gotten me fired ... if they could have figured out how >... but failing in that ... they tried to make things as unpleasant as >possible ... including precluding any c

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:58:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >All this means is that z/OS V1.12 includes the necessary levels of >utilities (such as SMP/E, IEBCOPY, and the Binder) needed to install >COBOL 5.1. It's not terribly unusual for the "driving system," or >installation product level, requirem

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:58:15 -0500, John McKown wrote: >I use BPXWDYN. It is _simple_ to use (in _any_ language, even REXX and >COBOL) and distributed by IBM with every z/OS system. >ref: >http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZB6A0/6.0 > Me, too. ("even"? In what langua

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread retired mainframer
You ask which fonts are used but intend to remove font libraries. Individual fonts are members of the various font libraries. SMF may tell you which libraries are opened and the I/O statistics for each but I do not see any data for members except in record 42 which covers only adding, deleting, an

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Peter Hunkeler
On 03/24/2014 07:16 PM, retired mainframer wrote: I don't know VPS but on my system (AFP and PPFA) all the used fonts were specified in the various PAGEDEFs we used. That might be a place to start. You don't have documents generated by AFP renderers such as ISIS Papyrus, HP Elixier, etc? With t

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread John Gilmore
Are we talking about heaps or stacks here? The distinction is important. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the me

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Bob Shannon
Data sets. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-03-24 18:54, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:58:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: All this means is that z/OS V1.12 includes the necessary levels of utilities (such as SMP/E, IEBCOPY, and the Binder) needed to install COBOL 5.1. It's not terribly unusual for the "driving syst

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread John Gilmore
Bob [Shannon]: I know. I was pursuing my hobby horse of encouraging the use of at least moderately useful post titles, and this one struck me as particularly misleading. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:58:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: All this means is that z/OS V1.12 includes the necessary levels of utilities (such as SMP/E, IEBCOPY, and the Binder) needed to install COBOL 5.1. It's not terribly unusual for the "driving system," or installation pro

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Out of context! I have NO idea what you mean! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Bob Shannon Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 14:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine Data sets. Bob Shannon Rocket Software ---

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread DASDBILL2
I was toying with the idea of giving him a Shmuel-type answer: either this:  Yes. or this:  SVC 99   - Original Message - From: "Mike La Martina" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine And there is thi

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread retired mainframer
Correct. We are a very small shop (one z10BC and a minimally configured DS6800) supporting a very old product and don't have any AFP renderers (that we know of). But we do use DCF and the old Waterloo Script and those may specify fonts inline also. :>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Ma

Doug Nadel's ISPFHTML - retired

2014-03-24 Thread Hank Oerlemans
Doug will have retired from IBM by the end of this month. Much material has been removed and will no longer be available from his site to avoid any perceived conflict of ownership or questions of right of distribution of said material. (as I no longer subscribe to ispf-l someone might like to p

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
It's a pretty tough assignment. They can also be specified in USERLIB on OUTPUT DD and depending on the printer may or may not be the ones used. The newer printers use 'closest available'. There's an AFP indexing tool for AFP files, but most folks don't go to the trouble. Guess I'd set up a c

Re: old RJE 360 workstation mod - reflexivity

2014-03-24 Thread Scott Ford
Tony, We has a RJE type driver we wrote for RSCS many moons ago..brings back good VM memories Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Mar 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> On 24 March 2014 12:03, Bill Godfrey wrote: >> The current thread about reflexivity reminds

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread TonyICLOUD
Imagine how Dr. Alzheimer felt when a disease was named after him. On 3/24/2014 4:16 PM, DASDBILL2 wrote: I was toying with the idea of giving him a Shmuel-type answer: either this: Yes. or this: SVC 99 - Original Message - From: "Mike La Martina" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: Enterprise Cobol 5.1

2014-03-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Robert Wessel writes: > DECsystem-10 actually. Although that often is considered a mainframe, > just not an IBM one. cp/m history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M#History prior to developing cp/m (73/74), kildall had worked with cp67/cms at naval postgraduate school. cp/m reflects some of bot

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Scott Ford
I bet strange, like this thread….are we talking C or Assembler or ? From: TonyICLOUD Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎March‎ ‎24‎, ‎2014 ‎8‎:‎34‎ ‎PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Imagine how Dr. Alzheimer felt when a disease was named after him. On 3/24/2014 4:16 PM, DASDBILL2 wrote: > I

Two new z/OS 2.1 redbooks

2014-03-24 Thread John McKown
z/OS Version 2 Release 1 Technical Updates http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedpieceAbstracts/sg248140.html?Open Chapter 1. IBM z/OS Version 2 Release 1 Chapter 2. z/OS V2R1 Installation and Migration Chapter 3. IBM Health Checker for z/OS Chapter 4. Virtual Lookaside Facility (VLF) Chapte

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Ed Gould
Ed: I am *ASSUMING* that VPS cuts type 6 records (SMF). There is a font name in the type 6 records. I would try and extract it from the SMF records. Unless there are multiple fonts per page all bets are off. Figuring out which library the font came from is another task and your solution mig

Re: Which fonts are being actually used?

2014-03-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
This problem seems like it'd be well suited to a security-based approach. Do you have the z/OS Security Server (RACF)? Could you use RACF warning mode to get a handle on who's accessing (or not accessing) these fonts? I suppose you could even get slightly fancy and use some form of automation to sh