Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

I think there is a tendency for folks to use the term JCL (yes, incorrectly of course) to mean "some sort of batch control statements," hence "FTP JCL," "IDCAMS JCL," etc. I assumed that was the OP's usage. Yes, the longer LRECL may imply getting the FTP control statements ("sub-commands" IIRC)

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:37:45 +0200, Charles Mills wrote: >Yes, that works. Forgotten what the max is, but it is "big" -- maybe 1024, >maybe 4K? > >Charles > >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:36 PM >> >Use a larger LRECL? > I just noticed "JCL" i

Re: Recovery routines

I would suggest that your eastex has a bug. Did you examine the dump? And, as usual - show the code. On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:02:01 -0400 Micheal Butz wrote: :>It hasn't retried :> :>I establish an estaex in the begining :>Of My program then load another program :>The second program gets a S0C

Re: Recovery routines

It was a TSO command processor Which I execute from within ISPF With following syntax TSO CMDPGM Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: > >> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:02:01 -0400, Micheal Butz >> wrote: >> >> It hasn't retried >> >> I establish an estaex

Re: Recovery routines

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:02:01 -0400, Micheal Butz wrote: >It hasn't retried > >I establish an estaex in the begining >Of My program then load another program >The second program gets a S0C4 >I get an ISP message re a S0C4 and the program ends my routine >Never has a chance to examine >It poin

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

The concept, not the fact that it was the slowest DASD storage in the market place when it arrived and stayed that way even when IBM rebadged it. The compression engine in the front end was a dog... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

Glenn, I work for one of the three vendors, and so I am very surprised to hear that HDS thinks that "Tape is clearly the best storage media for long term data archiving." Would you happen to know who it is that represents HDS hardware/software that agrees with this? I for one strongly disagree

Re: Recovery routines

In , on 08/26/2014 at 04:23 PM, Micheal Butz said: >How can I be sure that my Recovery routine will get control Not quite what you asked for, but an ESTAI exit might help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Recovery routines

It hasn't retried I establish an estaex in the begining Of My program then load another program The second program gets a S0C4 I get an ISP message re a S0C4 and the program ends my routine Never has a chance to examine It point is if everything is still under the same TCB/RB I should get cont

Re: Recovery routines

Why? If the called service successfully retries, it has handled the situation. Why does your program, as the caller of the service, care whether there was an abend? As usual the question is - "what is your business case?" On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:18:12 -0400 Micheal Butz wrote: :>I think the o

Re: Recovery routines

AAAHHH! I give up. On 8/26/2014 4:18 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: I think the operative word here is SHOULD I would like to establish the estatex once again close to the abend to get control Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Dave Day wrote: Either I'm not

Re: Recovery routines

I think the operative word here is SHOULD I would like to establish the estatex once again close to the abend to get control Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Dave Day wrote: > > Either I'm not understanding what it is you want to do, or you don't > understand how this wo

Re: Recovery routines

Either I'm not understanding what it is you want to do, or you don't understand how this works. If you have an estae set on your currently executing program, it is the last on the chain, and the 1st to get control if your program abends. If you call another program from yours, and it establis

Re: Recovery routines

I think if you re-use the token return by the token param of the ct invocation I could re-establish estatex on top of the chain Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: > > I have never tried estaex with the OV > Param but would that put my routine on top of the s

Re: Recovery routines

I have never tried estaex with the OV Param but would that put my routine on top of the scb chain Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Dave Day wrote: > > Set a SLIP to catch the abend in the system service. > > If the estae that gets control in front of yours successfully retrie

Re: HIPER PTF SUP'd by non-HIPER?

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:17:25 +, Chase, John wrote: >It seems logical to me that a PTF which supersedes a HIPER PTF should >itself be ASSIGNed the HIPER SOURCEID flag, but in one current instance >(UI19849, which supersedes UI18382 whose APAR is flagged HIPER and >DATALOSS) the superseding P

Re: Recovery routines

Set a SLIP to catch the abend in the system service. If the estae that gets control in front of yours successfully retries, then you have no knowledge in your program that the called service abended, unless it gives some kind of a return and reason code. --Dave On 8/26/2014 3:52 PM, Miche

Re: Recovery routines

I have written one of those a while ago however I was hoping for something that has an SDWA where I can examine the problem Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:48 PM, John McKown wrote: > > I guess you are talking about an ESTAEX type environment. If you have > the proper authority, y

Re: Recovery routines

I guess you are talking about an ESTAEX type environment. If you have the proper authority, you can make yourself a "resource manager" and request that an exit be driven when the task or address space terminates. ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a8b0/18.5.6 MVS p

Recovery routines

Hi I have a program which one of the first things I do is establish recovery Durning the course of program I invoke many system services How can I be sure that my Recovery routine will get control Since it is quite possible my Routine is not the last on the scb Chain and if the last routine doe

Re: java on Z maintenance level question

Or "Something!" ;) Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: java on Z maintenance level question

Seems as if the developers use the version string as their own "twitter". I think that part of it will tell you what the person who built had for lunch :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: > First the JAVA web pag

Re: java on Z maintenance level question

First the JAVA web page will help: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/java/ drilling down on that web page for the appropriate version will lead you to additional help. On the page look for and click on the link "IBM 31-bit SDK for z/OS" " Java Technology Edition, V6.0.0 IBM 31-bi

Re: java on Z maintenance level question

Just a WAG, but is one file system SMP/E installed and the other from the IBM Java web site? Mark Jacobs On 08/26/14 15:05, Pommier, Rex wrote: Hi, I have a question on java versioning and maintenance levels on z/OS. I have 2 different copies of Java 1.6.0 and am trying to decipher which i

java on Z maintenance level question

Hi, I have a question on java versioning and maintenance levels on z/OS. I have 2 different copies of Java 1.6.0 and am trying to decipher which is the more current. I've been under the assumption that the SRmFPn gave the maintenance level, and that the higher the numbers, the more current th

Re: Amdahl UTS manual

Anne: This is not the first time SHARE has dug its heals in on these types of doc. Its been years but SHARE also refused to let go of DASD FUTURES doc. I gave up and finally found one of the authors and he gave it to me. Ed On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: john.archi

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

While control unit storage tiering may be considered as a replacement to HSM processing for smaller environments, such a recommendation is an over simplification of the need for a comprehensive ILM strategy to properly manage data in middle-to-large environments. At the various conferences that

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

Since I could not tell if this was a DASD or CF Ckpt for JES2. One question I might add, Is there anything else allocated on the volume with the JES2 Ckpt dataset? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Stall

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

Forgot to say I have used it for long UNIX filenames. Easy to have a UNIX filename that does not fit in 80 columns. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:36 PM To: IBM

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

Yes, that works. Forgotten what the max is, but it is "big" -- maybe 1024, maybe 4K? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

I suspected that you were with your brother. This must be quite disheartening to say the least. The man from CRA is back from holidays and asked yesterday how the MICS component was coming along. John T. Abell President International Software Products Tel: 800-295-7608 Ext: 224 Int

Re: FW: DFSORT buffering

Kieth, Why aren't you looking at the IO time for the input and output datasets? Surely the Type 42 subtype 6 record will tell you more about the difference in IO behavior than cpu time. I don't see a comparison of SSCH count mentioned anywhere in the thread. Ron -Original Message- From

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

Rex, It is based on an IO per hour rate for the page. Occasionally referencing a page, or thousands of pages will not cause the page(s) to be promoted from tier 3 unless the activity is prolonged or intense enough to change the IO/hour. There are both short and long term IO/hour measures that are

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

Dana, You're correct. This just looks like a one giant pool of 3390-A to z/OS. z/OS is blissfully unaware of where a track is actually stored, similar to how disk arrays have worked for 20 years now except the pieces of a data set may be on different disk tiers based on the activity pf the page

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

Ron, One of your explanation paragraphs caught my attention so I'm asking out of curiosity, for my own benefit. What I find important is there is no data transformation or recall latency: it is all transparent to the application. You have to read 12 months of General Ledger files or SMF data s

Re: Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries

z/OSMF's software management application will cross-check DDDEFs, data set residency on volumes, and catalog entries for you, גדי בן אבי wrote: Hi, Is there an SMP/E utility that will compare the DDDEFs to the actual libararies and make sure that they all exist? If it make any difference, th

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

MASDEF looks reasonable. You might check on the PCEDEF values to allow for more parallelism in the shutdown process. IIRC, the defaults were very low(I have mine set to the max allowed). The tradeoff is more virtual storage used by the JES address space. Check the fine manuals for details... HT

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

Hi Allan, We were not IPLing, but just draining the Printer. HASP843 MASDEF OWNMEMB=ZOSA,AUTOEMEM=OFF,CKPTLOCK=ACTION, HASP843 COLDTIME=(1995.317,09:49:17),COLDVRSN=SP 5.1.0, HASP843 DORMANCY=(65,500),HOLD=50,LOCKOUT=500, HASP843 QUESHELD=ZOSA,RESTART=NO,SHARED=CHECK, HAS

Re: Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:05:48 +0300, גדי בן אבי wrote: > >Is there an SMP/E utility that will compare the DDDEFs to the actual >libararies and make sure that they all exist? > >If it make any difference, this is for z/OS v2.1 > APPLY CHECK and ACCEPT CHECK will do some of this for you. -- gil -

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 07:35:43 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: >I want to add a couple of parameters to my usual LOCSITE command, except >now it will be longer than 72 characters. Looking at the manual it doesn't >say if there is a way to make a continuation or if you can use multiple >LOCSITE commands. A

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Re: Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries

Thanks Rob, Works like a charm Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries A long time ago,

Re: Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries

A long time ago, I wrote a program called DDDEFCHK that used the SMP/E API to do exactly that - there is also a DDDEFPTH companion program to handle paths. I believe these programs still exist in the public domain in the CBT tape site (www.cbttape.org) - see files 411 and 412. Rob Scott Lead D

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

In addition to Robert's questions, were you IPLing 1 of the 2 systems? Also post the output of $DMASDEF DASD or XCF checkpoint or both? Were you purging output during this time? Can you attribute the $HASP263 to *anything* occurring in JES2 at the time the message was issued from the syste

Compare SMP/E DDDEFs and actual libraries

Hi, Is there an SMP/E utility that will compare the DDDEFs to the actual libararies and make sure that they all exist? If it make any difference, this is for z/OS v2.1 Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בע"מ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:18:21 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: >A three tier strategy using HDD or SSD for Tier 1, Nearline SAS >for ML2, and virtualized Brand-X midrange storage for Tier 3 presents a new >paradigm for archiving inactive and dormant data sets, including back-ups, >that I believe over ti

Re: Amdahl UTS manual

>> That sounds good to me. But, me being me, I would caution your friend >> in one regard. That manual is most likely copyrighted. If it is, then >> scanning it and uploading it _might_ result in prosecution. Especially >> if the copyright holder objects. Given today's litigious society, and >> the

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

yes close to 70. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Richards, Robert B. < robert.richa...@opm.gov> wrote: > I take it that you have lots of printers? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Christian D > Sent: Tuesday, A

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

I take it that you have lots of printers? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian D Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock We started getting the HASP263

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

We started getting the HASP263 when we drained all the Printers. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Richards, Robert B. < robert.richa...@opm.gov> wrote: > I would also like to suggest that you google $HASP263. > > The first couple of entries are very informative (Redbook, SHARE > presentation). >

Re: Amdahl UTS manual

john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: > That sounds good to me. But, me being me, I would caution your friend > in one regard. That manual is most likely copyrighted. If it is, then > scanning it and uploading it _might_ result in prosecution. Especially > if the copyright holder objec

Re: Amdahl UTS manual

John McKown wrote: >That sounds good to me. But, me being me, I would caution your friend in one >regard. That manual is most likely copyrighted. If it is, then scanning it and >uploading it _might_ result in prosecution. Especially if the copyright holder >objects. But the copyright statemen

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

Thank you both! On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:43 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Mark Pace wrote: > > I want to add a couple of parameters to my usual LOCSITE command, except > > now it will be longer than 72 characters. Looking at the manual it > doesn't > > say if ther

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

I would also like to suggest that you google $HASP263. The first couple of entries are very informative (Redbook, SHARE presentation). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian D Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:59 AM

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Mark Pace wrote: > I want to add a couple of parameters to my usual LOCSITE command, except > now it will be longer than 72 characters. Looking at the manual it doesn't > say if there is a way to make a continuation or if you can use multiple > LOCSITE commands.

Re: z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

Hi Mark, You can use two locsites one after the other. You can also add a + at the end of the first line, and the next line will be it's continuation. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, Aug

Re: Amdahl UTS manual

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Robin Atwood wrote: > Thanks. Both here and on the Hercules list bitsavers.org was the > overwhelming recommendation so shall I tell my friend to upload there that. > > Thanks for the replies! > Robin > That sounds good to me. But, me being me, I would caution you

z/OS FTP JCL LOCSITE

I want to add a couple of parameters to my usual LOCSITE command, except now it will be longer than 72 characters. Looking at the manual it doesn't say if there is a way to make a continuation or if you can use multiple LOCSITE commands. Anyone know the correct way to do this? -- The postings o

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

DASD or XCF checkpoint or both? Were you purging output during this time? Can you attribute the $HASP263 to *anything* occurring in JES2 at the time the message was issued from the system that wasn't complaining? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@L

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

>From SDSF = > MAS ZOSA ACTIVE 1 3.53 50 50 (65,500)501 1 ZOSB ACTIVE 2 0.12 50 50 (65,500)150 1 -$DPCE(CKPT),DE TAILS $HASP653 PCE(CKPT) $HASP653 PCE(CKPT) NAME=CKPT,WAIT=WORK,MOD=HASPCKPT, $HASP653SEQ=1

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

Christian D wrote: >Recently in one of our sandbox system we had HASP263 messages flooding up in >the console. >I found a note in Manuals about Deadlock or to know how to >The following messages are typical of poor management of HOLD, DORMANCY, and >LOCKOUT settings or are symptomatic of a syste

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:18:21 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: >... but I drank the cool-aid back in 1994 with Iceberg That explains s much :0) Not that I'm about to argue storage tiering with you. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

Go into SDSF and type the MAS command. Cut and paste the display. Otherwiseit depends. :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian D Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Av

Avoid JES2 Dead Lock

Hi, Recently in one of our sandbox system we had HASP263 messages flooding up in the console. I found a note in Manuals about Deadlock or to know how to The following messages are typical of poor management of HOLD, DORMANCY, and LOCKOUT settings or are symptomatic of a system problem: $HASP2

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

Lizette, With Tiered Storage on internal disk available on all three vendors, and on midrange storage with HDS, perhaps it is time to re-examine the need for ML1 with the big 3, and ML2 with HDS. The objective of ML1 is to compress recently inactive data sets and use less GB on media that is the