W dniu 2014-10-06 o 06:49, Brian Westerman pisze:
I got two completely different (and dumb) emails, I can post them here if you
want, but under no circumstances do I want you to send me any more email
off-list.
So, why don't you consider it's a hoax?
Elardus clearly claimed he didn't sent
Also uses Abe Korneels and lists various email ids @abcconsulting
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IEFUJI or IEFUJV sample
As Elardus says I did e-mail to you ONE reply and that was also on the list
and that he is a longtime partaker in this list I think he is worth at least
the benefit of a doubt.
With that I mean it would be good for this list, Elardus and you if you would
supply the off list mails - including
Thomas Berg wrote:
With that I mean it would be good for this list, Elardus and you if you would
supply the off list mails - including the email headers - to this list. Then
we can make a more fair judgment.
Ok. I'm going to jump in and then go hiding.
That insulter CC me when he replied
Cross-Posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE
People at our installation have got used to use BASH. I think it would be about
time BASH becomes an integral part of z/OS UNIX Sevices. I have opened a
requirement for this.
Title: Provide officially supported version of BASH shell for z/OS UNIX
Link:
Title: Provide officially supported version of BASH shell for z/OS UNIX
Just my opinion, but since BASH is a port of open source software, I don't
think it can ever be incorporated into USS.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■
Peter Hunkeler wrote:
People at our installation have got used to use BASH. I think it would be
about time BASH becomes an integral part of z/OS UNIX Sevices. I have opened a
requirement for this.
Thats a cool idea! I believe many will benefit from it.
Link:
Basically, if I recall correctly*, the ServerPac dialog MCAT=Y flag
means one of more of:
- The data set absolutely must be in the master catalog or something
won't work. What something might be is left as an excercise to the
Alert Sysprog, but it ranges from the system won't IPL to things
Some years ago, back when it was Tools Toys there was bash and I installed it
and used it. I really liked it (compared to sh) but it was just too buggy so I
removed it.
If it is still around, and it's updated, then perhaps I'll give it a go again.
Lindy
-Original Message-
From: IBM
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:59:29 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
People at our installation have got used to use BASH. I think it would be
about time BASH becomes an integral part of z/OS UNIX Sevices. I have opened a
requirement for this.
Title: Provide officially supported version of BASH shell for
Hi Group,
We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
the DB2 start up command showed invalid command.
I checked up the SYSLOG and I do not see any evidence where LINKLIST
libraries are loaded. Then Removed the DB2 subsystem dynamically from the
IEFSSNxx and readded
Jake:
I would think you could search thru the Linklist and find if the module was
missing …
I think ISRDDN can do it
Regards,
Scott
From: Jake anderson
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Hi Group,
We had a situation where a DB2
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote:
Cross-Posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE
People at our installation have got used to use BASH. I think it would be
about time BASH becomes an integral part of z/OS UNIX Sevices. I have
opened a requirement for this.
Title:
As mentioned using DDLIST and doing a LINKLIST is helpful. An alternative
is the z/OS operator command: d prog,lnklst
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Group,
We had a situation where a DB2 program DSN3INI was not found due to which
the DB2
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
Title: Provide officially supported version of BASH shell for z/OS UNIX
Just my opinion, but since BASH is a port of open source software, I don't
think it can ever be incorporated into USS.
Bob Shannon
Rocket
Jake,
Check your IEASYSxx member. Ensure the PROGxx members contain the library you
are looking for.
Check your SYSLOG at IPL time. See if there is an error message indicating a
library was not found.
If you have Mark Zelden's IPLINFO REXX, that can help you isolate what is or is
not being
I did D PROG,LNKLST and ISRDDN and i see the SDSNLINK (after IPL) which has
DSN3INI module in it. I am not sure why i received the below message during
IPL
IEE252I MEMBER IEFSSN00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB
CSR002I BATCH LSR SUBSYSTEM BLSR INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.
IEFJ004I SUBSYSTEM xxx NOT
Data sets can be added to the LINKLIST after the initial IPL. I do this using
a PROGxx member in PARMLIB and then issuing the T PROG=xx command:
LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLST11) COPYFROM(LNKLST00)
LNKLST ADD NAME(LNKLST11)
DSN(data.set.to.add)
I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required DB2
linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.
Is it possible SDSNLINK was added to the LINKLIST after the IEFSSN00 was
processed?
Not sure.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ron Graham
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Thanks again John for taking quite a bit of your time to answer so thoroughly.
One of my clients wishes to adhere, as much as possible, to their naming and
system-design standards:
1) SYS1 is SMP/E target
2) SYS2 contains read-only configuration items
Jake,
Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?
*Lucas Rosalen*
2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:
I did Mark Zeldens utility TSO IPLINFO ALL and i see the required DB2
linklist is loaded. The LNKLST00 has not changed after IPL.
Is it
Lucas
Its on single extent. The sdsnlink is catalogued to a usercat.
On 6 Oct 2014 22:42, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote:
Jake,
Is SDSNLINK with 1 ext only? Also, is in cataloged in MCAT?
*Lucas Rosalen*
2014-10-06 13:12 GMT-03:00 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com:
I
On 10/6/2014 at 11:52 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
It is integrated into almost every Linux distribution in existence, even
the ones such as RHEL which require licensing fees.
And now for a meta-quibble. Red Hat doesn't charge licensing fees. Like SUSE,
they charge
Storr, Lon A wrote:
1) SYS1 is SMP/E target
All of IBM's products? Or just some of them? For example, my SYS1.HRF* are in
MCAT and CEE.*, IGY.* and similar also.
thanks Elardus for your confirmation regarding SMS.
It was my big pleasure. I'm very humbled that I could be of service to you.
In a6c06.44fceb67.4162e...@aol.com, on 10/05/2014
at 02:47 PM, Ed Finnell
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
What's the term-'fomenters of dissent'. My first use of auto-delete
filter.
Or if you understand how to analyze the headers, complain about the
forgery to his
In
8449860500681215.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 10/05/2014
at 09:09 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
My only reply was also on-list where I offered you to contact me
off-list.
I'm not surprised; there are a bunch of sociopaths that consider
Is the DB2 loadlibrary in the PROGxx member as part of the IPL linklist
concatenation, or is being added dynamically to linklist? If being added
dynamically, you could have a timing issue of when those commands execute in
relation to the processing of the IEFSSNxx member.
Hi,
In the past we had a problem in IPL when initializing DB2 subsystem.
The cause was that DB2 subsystem were been initialized before SMS subsystem,
causing an error. We changed SMS to be the first subsystem (as it should)
and everything initialized successfully.
Atenciosamente / Regards /
lon.a.storr@mail.mil (Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC , US) wrote:
snip
I intend to build a test z/OS image to test my beliefs. If
system-initialization functions as per my current beliefs, I don't see any
reason why this site can't move forward. They would need to understand that
certain
Hi
Yes the db2 linklist are in sms managed volume but i suspect if SMS was
initialized after db2 subsystem initialization. Let me review the log
again but it was never a problem in previous IPLs.
Thanks for a valuable point.
On 6 Oct 2014 23:10, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Jake,
You mentioned that SDSNLINK is in a USERCAT. Do you have VOLUME(xx)
defined in PROGxx for your SDSNLINK or are you relying on the catalog to find
it? It is documented (at least at z/OS 1.13) that it must either be cataloged
in the master catalog or have a VOLUME parameter to be
I do not believe that the CAS is available at the initial LNKLST build time.
Thus, datasets in LNKLST *MUST* be in LNKLST at IPL time.
They can be added later, which describes the symptoms in your OP.
I believe if you peruse the system log, you will find a message SDSNLINK NOT
FOUND
HTH,
snip
No IEA716I messages during the IPL?
2014-10-06 15:15 GMT-03:00 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com:
I do not believe that the CAS is available at the initial LNKLST build
time. Thus, datasets in LNKLST *MUST* be in LNKLST at IPL time.
They can be added later, which describes the symptoms in
Objective is saving $$$
I only have about 10-20 forms in use and maybe a few more pagedefs.
Printing with forms or special pagedef is on the light side maybe 10K per
month.
I've got a few workgroup printers with IPDS cards in them as well as 2 large
Infoprint printers.
Cost just for the
We dropped PSF many years ago in favor of VPS (and DRS) from Levi, Ray and
Shoup.
We still keep OGL, PPFA and DCF around for making changes to the letters.
I can't promise $$$ savings as LRS isn't all that cheap. I understand MacKinney
is also a possibility.
I don't know ACIF :)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
John:
I would agree that CPP does a reasonable job regarding the configuration
options which are supported. I don't believe that there is anything marked
MCAT=Y that shouldn't be; CPP must accommodate all enterprises and users of all
skill levels.
On 10/6/2014 3:37 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
That insulter CC me when he replied twice to the OP. I think this is because I
replied on-list on IBM-MAIN to the OP. I'm absolutely disgusted about those
comments and I don't blame the OP for his rants.
I think we have a pretty good idea who
On 2014-10-06 06:59, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
Cross-Posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE
People at our installation have got used to use BASH. I think it would be
about time BASH becomes an integral part of z/OS UNIX Sevices. I have opened
a requirement for this.
Title: Provide officially
In 8570813056801406.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@listserv.ua.edu,
on 10/05/2014
at 11:49 PM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
I got two completely different (and dumb) emails,
I'm sure that you did, but what makes you believe that they are from
him?
--
Shmuel
In
ofb21d8206.2b6c4d45-on85257d69.000dc2ef-85257d69.000dc...@us.ibm.com,
on 10/05/2014
at 10:30 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
On a marginally related subject, JCL supports a hyphen within a
data set name
It used to allow a hyphen within a member name; the hyphen was
convenient as
In
7417043919789655.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 10/06/2014
at 05:37 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
I will leave it to the OP to publish the two mails+headers to
IBM-MAIN.
How do you expect him to post e-mails that he never sent and that
In ff20166754dd42f88d14b7ec818d3...@wal-vm-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 10/06/2014
at 01:40 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said:
Just my opinion, but since BASH is a port of open source software, I
don't think it can ever be incorporated into USS.
No, but it can be incorporated
How will you be using the data? LUW, Oracle, other?
Do you use NFS or other accesses?
You can offload the VSAM with REPRO but then the receiving system would need to
be able to read the data.
If you could explain the process you will be using the VSAM data in, it will
help.
Also, what
Hi all,
The config is okay when done in 2 steps,
1. Delete target CHP. + hw/sw IODF activate
2. Add new CHP+ hw/sw IODF activate
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:15 PM, John D Levine jdlev...@us.ibm.com wrote:
After the CF command, did you vary the path online?
John L.
From: Cobe Xu
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:42:47 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
How will you be using the data? LUW, Oracle, other?
Do you use NFS or other accesses?
You can offload the VSAM with REPRO but then the receiving system would need
to be able to read the data.
If you could explain the process you will
The reason for trying to do this was some user's request who were trying to
clone some production application for testing and needed some datasets
cloned under a different HLQ and then pointing it to another dataset (with
a different HLQ). After experimenting a bit with the define alias and
I will point out a textual error in the request. The fourth paragraph ...
Thanks, John. I don't seem to be able to edit the text, but I have just added a
comment to clarify this.
--Peter Hunkeler
--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe /
Just my opinion, but since BASH is a port of open source software, I don't
think it can ever be incorporated into USS.
I thought IBM has been delivering BASH as part of AIX for over a decade now,
don't they?
--Peter Hunkeler
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