Re: DUMP parm recommendation

2015-04-28 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Shalom Binyamin, We IPL several systems on a daily basis. Having the benefit of reading the replies from Lizette, Skip, Shane and Barbara before any response on my part... what they said! :-) and many thanks for the comments and suggestions. Is this for system initiated dumps or when DUMP

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:07:54 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: I am currently working with ABARS process. As I get into it, I was wondering with today's Storage Array, Replication, Snap, Flash Copy, is it still needed? Those things work pretty well to protect you from DASD failure. They will do

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would suggest that you open a SR with IBM SDSF on this question. There may be something easier to maintain. IBM SDSF support is very helpful. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent:

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:16:00 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Gadi wrote: I agree, but that's what the big bosses want in this case. Ouch. Not for us lowly worms to argue... There's some reasonable motivation in forestalling traffic analysis. Will this sample ISF.SISFSRC(ISFUSER) help you

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:09:23 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: Is it still possible to acquire the z990 exploitation support patch? Were? -- Tony Links found via http://archive.org/web/ Program Directory http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/i1128362.pdf

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: I am currently working with ABARS process. As I get into it, I was wondering with today's Storage Array, Replication, Snap, Flash Copy, is it still needed? I asked my storage guy, just out of curiosity. Apparently they dropped ABARS because usage of VTS is somewhat

Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread Thomas Conley
On 4/28/2015 5:20 PM, Staller, Allan wrote: EXPORT UCATNAME DCON from all mcats. DEL 'remaining component names' vvr file(xxx) Where file(xxx) points to the volume in question. *MUST* be done in batch unless you have authorized IDCAMS under TSO.. Follow by DIAGNOSE and EXAMINE for all

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not clear why a table exit needs to be used. As far as I know, the ISFPRMXX and RACF can co-exist. The ISFPRMXX has the ability to Exclude access (visibility) to the information. The ISFPRMxx may require the SDSF Server to be running. This is a started task that uses ISFPRMxx to manage

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread Jousma, David
I'm curious about this request. 1) who is running old enough version of z/OS to need it, and 2) who is running on a 990 yet? ASFAIK, even with this exploitation support these older versions will not run on Z9 or later at all. _

Re: Need secure 3270 License key

2015-04-28 Thread Curtis Jackson
If you are a customer of SecureAgent and have their virutal tape product (which for us included Secure TN3270), you should be able to email them at supp...@mail.secureagent.com and they will be glad to send you license keys for the Secure TN3270 software.

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
I agree, but that's what the big bosses want in this case. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF question Gadi wrote:

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread Staller, Allan
Just download the PSP bucket for the z/990. I am sure this info is already included A lot of manual effort to identify the PTFs needed from the APARs listed, but ultimately successful... HTH, snip Is it still possible to acquire the z990 exploitation support patch? Were? /snip

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
Currently OS/390 2.10 on z800. Crypto not an issue. Tony Jousma, David wrote on 04/28/2015 09:03 AM: I'm curious about this request. 1) who is running old enough version of z/OS to need it, and 2) who is running on a 990 yet? ASFAIK, even with this exploitation support these older

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: I am not clear why a table exit needs to be used. Neither me, because the OP said he used both ISFPRMxx and RACF. The ISFPRMXX has the ability to Exclude access (visibility) to the information. Indeed. You're probably referring to GROUP, IFIELDS, ISTATUS statements

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Ed Finnell
Might do a search on SHARE Seattle SDSF session Hopefully you get a hit on 16604. It's a well done user presentation on SDSF. While it probably doesn't answer all question it's got a hot index on pg 82 that will take you just about everywhere you need to go with SDSF. 'cept maybe JES3.

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread R.S.
IMHO it won't work. PSP bucket contains PTFs, while exploitation support is web deliverable and it's new FMID. Not to mention neither z990 PSP bucket nor the web deliverable contains support for new (then) crypto. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2015-04-28 o 14:21, Staller,

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:00:48 -0500, Glenn Wilcock finished with: So, when determining your backup strategy, first determine your recovery needs and then determine which backup technique will best fit those needs. The elephant in the room is that there is no way to have complete confidence in

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:42:39 -0300, Lucas Rosalen wrote: If you have all your production jobs submitted under the same or just a few userids, it might be hard to find your job filtering only by owner (assuming you keep many outputs in spool). I very rarely filter by owner myself though. I do

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi Lizette, There have been some great appends to this question. I also wanted to add my two cents... When determining your backup strategy, you need to determine the desired RTO (Recover Time Objective), RPO (Recovery Point Objective) and BWO (Backup Window Object) for both physical loss

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

2015-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 26 Apr 2015 09:54:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attached_Support_Processor I thought JES3 can still spread workload over multiple LPARs? JES3 can have 1 GLOBAL and N LOCALs where N ranges from 1 to a number I have long since forgotten. From

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Shane, To your point. Anything we do with ABARS or DFDSS dumps will most likely be fuzzy as many files are always open under CICS/IMS/MQ/DB2, etc To harden the data to make the backup useful would require an outage in some cases. So I appreciate everyone's input. There is a lot to

Re: Thoughts on DFSMShsm ABARS in today's environment

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Glenn Wilcock wrote: You wrote a very good and educational reply - Much appreciated! ... Mirroring solutions do not provide any protection here because the logical corruption is just instantly mirrored to all locations of the data. Yup - see my post on IBM-MAIN on Fri, 31 May 2013 in thread

Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread Staller, Allan
EXPORT UCATNAME DCON from all mcats. DEL 'remaining component names' vvr file(xxx) Where file(xxx) points to the volume in question. *MUST* be done in batch unless you have authorized IDCAMS under TSO.. Follow by DIAGNOSE and EXAMINE for all catqalogs HTH, snip Without delving

How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Without delving into the saga of how we got here, a week ago a whole bunch of ICF catalogs turned up missing their index component cat-name.CATINDEX. We recovered most of them. One is still broken, but there is nothing of value there. I just want it to go away. Rather than beg the storage folks

Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:45 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: Without delving into the saga of how we got here, a week ago a whole bunch of ICF catalogs turned up missing their index component cat-name.CATINDEX. We recovered most of them. One is still broken, but there is

Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I remember doing pretty much the same thing. We had a command/program to do the dirty deed. Thought I remembered that that method stopped working with the advent of indexed VTOC... . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: z I/O reference summary

2015-04-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-04-28 o 21:21, John McKown pisze: Just picked up on this off of twitter. http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD102278 abstract *Abstract:* IBM z Systems I/O Feature Reference Table grouped by card type / function: OSA, FICON, Parallel Sysplex, Special

Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread Chris Hoelscher
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Re: How to delete a broken catalog

2015-04-28 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:56 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: I remember doing pretty much the same thing. We had a command/program to do the dirty deed. Thought I remembered that that method stopped working with the advent of indexed VTOC... ​I _think_ that th​e DEL

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
We already do all that. Users can still see a job in the job lists that they do not have authority to view. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:12 AM To:

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Shalom Gadi, What you need is Table Build Exit (see SDSF installation customization guide for details). in short, it get control on every row in a table display and can remove row from the table. from my experience it have a low overhead as it got control after all filters are executed. Hope

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gadi wrote: Is it possible to prevent a user from seeing jobs that belong to other users? Yes. You can do that by owner or by jobname. You've got good replies. What are you using for security? RACF, ESM or ISFPRMxx? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Shalom Gadi, What do you mean by seeing? do you want to prevent the job from be listed in SDSF if the user is not authorized to, or just limit the user to view jobs he owns? By RACF, you need a user exit to prevent the job to be listed. ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gadi wrote: We use RACF for security. Good. Use the link Paul kindly provided and look to JESSPOOL, SDSF and RACFVARS classes amongst other things to achieve your goal. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
We use RACF for security. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF question Gadi wrote: Is it possible to prevent a

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

2015-04-28 Thread Thomas Conley
On 4/27/2015 12:01 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: For the last few days most of the posts on this list and the MQ list have been going in to my spam folder on yahoo.com. I think the only ones that are not are those from people who have sent me private emails before. Any thoughts on how to fix

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

2015-04-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I honestly have not attempted to contact yahoo support, as I am fairly certain they would just tell me to try all of the things I've already tried that does not work (add to contacts, add filter). I'm thinking I'll need to switch this list to a different email provider. Frank -

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
I've experienced several instances of antiquated convention that were byproducts of batch job owner generation via a feature of Top Secret and ACF2. As are many old inherited conventions they're troublesome to remove, more for cultural than technical considerations. On 4/28/2015 11:02 AM,

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

2015-04-28 Thread zMan
Tom: You beat me to it... On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I'm thinking Yahoo has it right On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: On 4/27/2015 12:01 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: For the last few

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gadi wrote: Users can still see a job in the job lists that they do not have authority to view. Ok. We all at first assumed you want to prevent them to see the CONTENTs of the jobs and to reroute/purge the jobs. Thanks for finally saying it is about the tables you want to be limited. Gadi:

Re: SDSF question

2015-04-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF question Shalom Gadi, What you need is Table Build Exit (see SDSF

Re: z990 exploitation support

2015-04-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-04-28 o 01:09, Tony Thigpen pisze: Is it still possible to acquire the z990 exploitation support patch? Were? Officially no. It affects systems which are way out of service. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione

z I/O reference summary

2015-04-28 Thread John McKown
Just picked up on this off of twitter. http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD102278 abstract *Abstract:* IBM z Systems I/O Feature Reference Table grouped by card type / function: OSA, FICON, Parallel Sysplex, Special Function Cards, Cryptography, ESCON, and I/O Support.

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

2015-04-28 Thread william janulin
Yahoo wnet South when they changed CEO's. She does not believe in remote work. Their email leave a lot to be desired, also. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 3:06 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom: You beat me to it... On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Conley

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

2015-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Frank Swarbrick wrote: For the last few days most of the posts on this list and the MQ list have been going in to my spam folder on yahoo.com. I think the only ones that are not are those from people who have sent me private emails before. Any thoughts on how to fix this? The listserv email