Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

Hi Tom, Which is why I trying to ask if anyone had a solution/bypass to that statement. I assumed, incorrectly, that since the ++HOLD was instream to the USERMOD, that a RESTORE and REJECT of a USERMOD would have also removed the instream ++HOLDs, but I am finding that is not true. Therefore

Re: CBPDO vs ServerPac

It not true / no longer true. You have exact ontrol of every single dataset parameters, every single volume occupation. I don't know what CSI configuration you lack, but there are also some knobs and buttons. Disclaimer: I'm not selling ServerPacs ;-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: CBPDO vs ServerPac

Only ServerPac is free of charge (from the *Pac family). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2015-09-15 o 23:03, Ed Finnell pisze: The other option is SystemPAC or CustomPAC. Depending on level sets and Software releases(down level) can save considerable conversion time. For the

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

IBM is correct. No way to do that. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From:

RSU or maintenance level on a system

I already posted this question to IBM but wanted to find out if others are getting this request from their auditors. Our auditors want to be able to display the RSU or maintenance level of our z/OS system. To my knowledge, there is no way to do that (IBM has also agreed). Does anyone know if

Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

You can use the SMPE panels to add/remove the hold. That usually how I add a user hold, and then eventually remove them as well. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris,

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

So give your auditors want they want using your IEASYMxx member. Add "SYMDEF(='.RSU1nnn')" to it and when they ask for your RSU issue the "D SYMBOLS" command. Just make sure nnn is your current RSU number. ;-D an -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

There's no way to display it because there's not really such a thing as a defined maintenance level for a z/OS system. RSU is a collection of recommended PTFs for a selection of products. So what would be the definition of your system being at a RSU level? Does it imply all the maintenance? For

Re: Concatenated datasets read information.

At 08:44 PM 9/15/2015, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

What would the auditors gain with this knowledge? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 08:30 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system IBM is correct. No way to do that.

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

Or get some auditors who understand what they are auditing. If they don't understand z/OS they are adding no value to your business by pretending to audit z/OS. Your management will get a warm or cool feeling from what the auditors say, but it will say nothing meaningful about the state of

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > What would the auditors gain with this knowledge? > ​Knowledge? It's just _data_. Auditors, in my experience, have very little _knowledge_. Much like government bureaucrats. ​ > > - > -teD > - > -- Schrodinger's

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

Say what you really think John, On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > What would the auditors gain with this knowledge? > ​Knowledge? It's just _data_. Auditors, in my experience, have very little _knowledge_. Much like government bureaucrats. ​

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

Thinking about this some more, we save the apply listings for audit purposes. In our case, they want to see the progression of maintenance flowing from TECH to DEV, and then DEV to PROD to prove we test our maintenance. When we do maintenance, we usually select RSU* or specific RSU levels

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:27:54 +, Lopez, Sharon wrote: >Our auditors want to be able to display the RSU or maintenance level >of our z/OS system. To my knowledge, there is no way to do that >(IBM has also agreed). Does anyone know if this is possible and are >you getting the same request

Re: HSM Error Message

1) HSM LIST TTOC(408922). Note predecessor or successor volumes 2) HSM LIST TTOC(predecessor) or successor 3) the listing should show hsm.back, (depending on setting in arccmd00) as the (first or last) dataset on 408922. This should be the same dataset as (the 1st or last) dataset on the

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

Devious! I'll have to put that in my bag of tricks. :-) That could have easily worked with any auditors I've encountered in the past, but Sharon's auditors apparently know z/OS. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

One more thing, IBM supplies the OS information for you using You cannot change it and you don't have to specify it in your IEASYMxx member. For us when we enter D SYMBOLS it's: = "Z1020100". ;-D an -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

And since you document your SMP/E work you can back it up. ;-D an -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RSU or

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

Or another Technique could be to use the CVTUSER field. Zap it with a Usermod to include the RSU with your live system 00D4 212 Signed 4 CVTUSER- FIELD AVAILABLE TO USER Thought I do like the SYMBOLS option, but it is way too easy to change. Zapping the CVTUSER would take more

Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:08:24 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote: >I assumed, incorrectly, that since the ++HOLD was instream to the >USERMOD, that a RESTORE and REJECT of a USERMOD would have >also removed the instream ++HOLDs, but I am finding that is not true. Did you specify HOLDDATA on the REJECT

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Lopez, Sharon wrote: > I already posted this question to IBM but wanted to find out if others are > getting this request from their auditors. > > Our auditors want to be able to display the RSU or maintenance level of > our z/OS system. To

Re: Concatenated datasets read information.

> Depending on how often you want to do this (every record?) Couldn't you just save off DCBTIOT and compare it before (after?) every GET? If DCBTIOT changed then go through the whole drill below, else not? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

We apply PUT maintenance, not RSU, but we have a usermod to update CVTVERID with maintenance level. If you did that you could give the auditors some Rexx code to display the value. Bob Shannon Rocket Software Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

I have pitched this idea before. In a process that predates me in this shop, it was recognized that quite apart from auditors' poking around, we sysprogs needed a way to track a 'system package' at it migrated from one system to the next throughout the enterprise. The choice was to attach an

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

And having INSTALLED (even all) PTFs at a given RSU attribute does not mean they have been copied to a RUNTIME environment So is there anything you COULD do? Run AMBLIST against all runtime load modules - looking for PTF eyecatches in IDR if they exist - go to CSI - get the RSU attribute from

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:50:20 +, Bob Shannon wrote: >We apply PUT maintenance, not RSU, but we have a usermod to update CVTVERID >with maintenance level. If you did that you could give the auditors some Rexx >code > to display the value. My last post

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:42:19 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote: >I have pitched this idea before. In a process that predates me in this shop, >it was recognized that quite apart from auditors' poking around, we sysprogs >needed a way to track a 'system package' at it

Re: Concatenated datasets read information.

In <039701d0f08d$2138cd10$63aa6730$@mcn.org>, on 09/16/2015 at 07:36 AM, Charles Mills said: >Couldn't you just save off DCBTIOT and compare it before (after?) >every GET? Yes if you've set unlike attributes, not otherwise. Curse OCO! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Restore time question

Backing up and restoring a Dasd. Using ADRDSSU: DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE RESTORE FULL INDD(BACKUP) OUTDD(DASD) PRG CAN ADMIN All the dasd can be backed up in 1:15, but restore takes 5:08. Are we doing something wrong, or is this 4.5x longer normal? --

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

In , on 09/16/2015 at 12:27 PM, "Lopez, Sharon" said: >Our auditors want to be able to display the RSU or maintenance level >of our z/OS system. Why? It won't tell the what service is

Re: Concatenated datasets read information.

In <20150916131602.7f3503e0...@listserv01.ua.edu>, on 09/16/2015 at 09:15 AM, Art Celestini said: >As Chris Blaicher indicated, find the TIOT entry using DCBTIOT and >TIOEJFCB will contain an SVA for the JFCB. In a concatenation there are multipkle TIOT entries; you

z/OS V2.2 IBM Education Assistance

We've recently placed on the web ( http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/pages/IBMIEAV22avail?Open ) new materials associated with z/OS V2.2. If you're not familiar with IBM Education Assistance (not to be confused with IBM Education Assistant), these are modules that can give you "soup to

Re: Restore time question

No hardware changes. We restored our system to our dr box using our recovery system. Took 5:08. Brought up our system, then did a backup. Took 1:15 (and some other stuff was running). Tony Thigpen Rob Schramm wrote on 09/16/2015 03:29 PM: Same tape subsystem? Rob Schramm On Wed, Sep 16,

Re: AMASPZAP to C main marked as $private

If you are in this situation, and you do not have the source to recompile, but you are able to rebind the module, you can use the binder control statement CHANGE (or REPLACE) to turn the private section name into an actual name. This capability was introduced in z/OS V1R13.

NFS Client implementation query

Dear Listers, Need expert advise here on the NFS Client implementation on zOS platform - I've configured the parms in BPXPRMxx. - Had set-up the STC proc in the active proclib - Had made necessary Security definitions (STC ID, definition to STARTED CLASS, dataset access) However, When I start

Re: Restore time question

Same tape subsystem? Rob Schramm On Wed, Sep 16, 2015, 3:21 PM Tony Thigpen wrote: > Backing up and restoring a Dasd. > > Using ADRDSSU: > DUMP FULL INDD(DASD) OUTDD(BACKUP) ALLD(*) ADMIN TOL(IOER) ALLE > RESTORE FULL INDD(BACKUP) OUTDD(DASD) PRG CAN ADMIN > > All the dasd

Re: Restore time question

So the cache was loaded when you did the backup ... CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of

Re: Restore time question

I would also think that working with 500+ mostly full 3390-3 and 100+ mostly full 3390-9 volumes would have flushed the cache. Tony Thigpen Porowski, Ken wrote on 09/16/2015 05:09 PM: So the cache was loaded when you did the backup ... CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering |

Re: Restore time question

With the method mentioned, what is happening, in the area of reorganization, during the restore? If reorganization is occurring, is there a method to stop the reorg? Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 09/16/2015 03:20 PM: Backing up and restoring a Dasd. Using ADRDSSU: DUMP FULL INDD(DASD)

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

We may be zapping our label in NUC at an unconventional spot. IPLINFO does not show it. Here's what we see at IPL time. IEA008I R13V PARMS FOLLOW FOR z/OS 01.13.00 HBB7780 . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager

Re: NFS Client implementation query

You mentioned client? Where's the server located ? On Wednesday, September 16, 2015, RCG wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Need expert advise here on the NFS Client implementation on zOS platform > > - I've configured the parms in BPXPRMxx. > - Had set-up the STC proc in the

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

Stop the ZFS address space. It should stop as part of OMVS shut down anyway, but that's probably post-JES2 completion at your site. Issue command F OMVS,STOPPFS=ZFS. SYSLOG should close as part of normal JES2 shut down. Under z/OS 2.2, it is not recommended to run ZFS processing in its own

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

The problem is OP's shutdown logic. Not all tasks need to be shut down, and those that do not run under JES2 cannot be shut down using JES2 commands. The message IEE707I $DA,XNOT EXECUTED indicates that JES2 itself has already terminated and therefore cannot be called upon to shut

Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

Thank you Tom, > Did you specify HOLDDATA on the REJECT command? And simply adding HOLDDATA to my REJECT command solved all these problems. Thanks again Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

Thanks Ant & Lizette. F OMVS,STOPPFS=ZFS command worked and we were able to bring down ZFS for one systemSYS3 and for other system SYS9 we are facing an issue. OMVS is down and we tried to issue STOPPFS=ZFS command and it's not allowing. RESPONSE=SYS1 IEE618I ROUTE COMMAND REJECTED.

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

ROUTE command not working is a completely separate issue. It won't happen if that LPAR is outside of the sysplex. You'll need a console on that system. Use the HMC if you need to, assuming you have one. Try the F OMVS, STOPPFS=FZS command on a SYS9 console. F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKINIT should

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

Hi Ant, We couldn't able to access commands from master console or HMC, since the system went onto wait-state. Central processor (CP) 0 is in a nonrestartable stopped state due to a System Control Program (SCP) initiated reset of the I/O interface for partition LPAR4. The disabled wait

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

Most typically, that wait state is entered when the system has been deliberately shut down by operators. Re-IPL. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Meenakshi, Vinoth - CW Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2015 2:40 PM

IPL Shutdown Problem

Hi All, We are having issue with bringing down the JES2,two of the STC are running and it's not coming down. Even Purge command is not working. ZFS STC03291 OMVS 15 EXECUTION SYS9 SYS9 SYSLOG STC09890 +MASTER+ 15 EXECUTION SYS9 SYS9 Even we can't

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

The list is not the best place for an urgent issue. But we will try to help. If this is PRODUCTION, Just take a Stand alone dump and IPL. If this is any other system - how long can you be down before you IPL. Normally I do the SA Dump and IPL. I worry about why later. You do not want to