Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-06-28 o 18:19, John Eells pisze: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? Application data volumes

AW: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-29 Thread Peter Hunkeler
When I was with IBM Education, we used to run class labs on minimal z/OS (OS/390, MVS/...) systems as VM guests. The volumes were VM mini volumes just as large as needed. If VM is still the base for those labs, I'm pretty sure there still are volumes of various small sizes. Not sure however if

TSO TEST and SYSOUTTRAP/SYSOUTLINE

2016-06-29 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi Does any one know if capturing TEST output Into CLIST variables is possible Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Possible RFE: OMVS PDS-member serialization?

2016-06-29 Thread John McKown
Gil, IMO, that is a wonderful idea. I especially endorse the latter idea of enhancing the C runtime fopen() as a generalized way to introduce this ability to _any_ C language code which uses fopen(). Just thinking about it, I think this code be done most compatibly by introducing a new keyword par

Re: Possible RFE: OMVS PDS-member serialization?

2016-06-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
I agree! I would definitely vote for this RFE. I believe that an RFE that I created last year does overlap or possibly address this. Please take a look and vote for it if you agree that we need better PDS / PDSE support in the IBM C Library: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_cas

Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Austin
Is there a way to determine programmatically if soft capping is being applied to a z/OS image? Thanks -- This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by Google Message Security and the UNICOM Global security systems. This message is for the named person's use only. If you receive this m

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I think Mark Zelden's IPLINFO has that capability, but my system doesn't use capping so I cannot see it. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks, I've taken a look and IPLINFO appears to be able to infer when a soft cap is in effect. However I did not phrase my question very well. What I'd really like to determine is whether the image capacity figure is from a soft cap or a hard cap, regardless of whether a cap is in effect. Ste

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For Group Capacity, RMF III will show you the name of the group and the limit being enforced. Select 1-OVERVIEW, then 3-CPC. Look for the following (ignore values, they are made up): Partition: LPTEST Model 999 CPC Capacity: 999 Weight % of Max: 4h Avg: 90 Group: GRO

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Craig Pace
Look at your rolling 4-hour average vs your MSUs used. If Softcap is in place, you can see spikes that go above the 4-hour average for the true MSUs used if you are hitting capacity. If you have a hardcap, then you will never go over your configured capacity. Of course, this is post processin

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Austin
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Re: Request for confirmation of an RCF

2016-06-29 Thread Van Eck, James: Absa
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FW: HMC automation

2016-06-29 Thread Neil Duffee
ooops... forgot to include the group in the reply. Small update from yesterday's digest reading: you *can* reduce the individual CP MSUs when adding processors. The restriction, as others have indicated, is the reduction cannot be less than the purchased BASE ie. for our z12BC, K02->G04 (or so

JOB cards, procs, and TIOTs, o my!

2016-06-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Noticed something odd-ish. If you put a JOB card in a proc, the TIOT is populated differently, yet what SDSF;DA isn't quite what I'd expect. The behavior below has been observed on 1.12 and 2.1, all JES2. That is, given a PROC called MYPROC, with no JOB card and a label of EXECIT on the EXEC PGM=

Re: Datasets usage question

2016-06-29 Thread Duc
Thank you all I 've downloaded DAF from cbttape, have some errors to compile the assembler , but it should be ok -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the m

Re: JOB cards, procs, and TIOTs, o my!

2016-06-29 Thread Rob Scott
Phil Note that most system software products that show "SDSF DA" style information will most likely NOT be using the TIOT for anything related to address space identity. Jobnames typically come from ASSBJBNS/JBNI or from the pointers in ASCBJBNS/JBNI or from whatever ERBSMFI returns for type 7

Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Michael Knigge
All, I have a multithreaded Java application that writes to stdout (and stderr) thru a native C library using fputc and fwrite. Now, at our site everything is all right with output to stderr and stdout from multiple threads. At a customer site only output from the main thread is written to

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread J R
Possibly fundamental difference between JES (simulating unit record) and DASD (probably blocked). Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:30, Michael Knigge wrote: > > All, > > > I have a multithreaded Java application that writes to stdout (and stderr) > thru a native C library usin

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Michael Knigge wrote: > All, > > I have a multithreaded Java application that writes to stdout (and stderr) > thru a native C library using fputc and fwrite. Now, at our site everything > is all right with output to stderr and stdout from multiple threads. > > At

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
In the C/C++ Programmers Guide under Input and Output there is this note: "Avoiding Undesirable Results when Using I/O File serialization is not provided for different tasks attempting to access the same file. When a C/C++ application is run on one task, and the same application or another C/C+

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 June 2016 at 14:00, John McKown wrote: > I may be blowing smoke here, if so I'm sure someone will point it out :-}. I think you're on the right (write...?) track. [...] > A DD pointing to a sequential data set is _not_ designed to be > written to by two different DCBs concurrently. What

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
When using two Unix threads in the same z/OS Unix process, operations to sdout/stderr are serialized. Are you certain that these are two threads in the same process rather than threads in different processes (which would be at least separate LE enclaves, and perhaps different address spaces) ? Ki

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 29 Jun 2016 12:37:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) wrote: >On 29 June 2016 at 14:00, John McKown wrote: > >> I may be blowing smoke here, if so I'm sure someone will point it out :-}. > >I think you're on the right (write...?) track. > >[...] >> A D

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread J R
Agreed. I just reread the OP and it's not clear if he's tried DSN= . I originally assumed he had. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2016, at 17:13, Clark Morris wrote: > > [Default] On 29 Jun 2016 12:37:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) wrote: > >>> On 29

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
According to the OP these are Java threads, so it is whatever the JVM is using to multiplex threads. Possibly Unix threads, possibly something else? It depends on the JVM implementation, right? But I'm just fishing here, since I am anything but a JVM expert. Peter -Original Message-

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

2016-06-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:07:05 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >When using two Unix threads in the same z/OS Unix process, operations to >sdout/stderr are serialized. > >Are you certain that these are two threads in the same process rather than >threads in different processes (which would be at least separa

Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Anthony Thompson
CVT + x'25C' = address of RMCT (SRM control table) RMCT + x'E4' = address of RCT (SRM resource control table) RCT + x'C4' = RCTLACS (4 bytes, unsigned, long-term no. Of MSU's consumed by LPAR) RCT + x'1C' = RCTIMGW (4 bytes, unsigned, no. of MSU's available to LPAR) If RCTLACS > RCTIMGWU, the LP