Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-22 Thread Mike Shorkend
One of my customers does a daily flash copy and then IPLs off the copy. No issues with JES2 warm start. They are using DS8870 and z/OS 2.2 but have been doing this for years without problems. HTH Mike On 23 August 2016 at 04:46, Ron Hawkins wrote: > Ken, > > FlashCopy consistency group "shoul

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ken, FlashCopy consistency group "should" give you the same P-i-T as Synch and Asynch Remote Copy. Sounds like you should report a problem. Attended a few DR rehearsals where JEs2 has warm started without a hitch. Have you tried ShadowImage At-Time split (if you have HDS)? Ron -Original M

Re: Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-22 Thread Janet Graff
When running from the USS command line I can specifiy -Xdump:none and suppress the Java dumps and traces. Then if I get an abend I get the CEEDUMP which is much more useful. Where do I specify -Xdump:none in the EXEC=JVMLDM66 JCL? Does it go in the STDENV or is it an argument? Janet ---

Re: Survey question: what do you specify for HVCOMMON?

2016-08-22 Thread Graham Harris
As we have no plans to use HIS sampling (which I presume is what makes use of the data), it seemed an unnecessary waste of real memory. It is a decision that is easily reversed if this data may become valuable in the future. On 21 August 2016 at 23:45, Peter Relson wrote: > >we also have turned

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
So can you use ISPF Function for SEARCH (Option 3.13 I think) in batch and let it do the searching? You could build a batch job or rexx to read a dataset list to search those files. Just a thought. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 August 2016 at 16:53, Janet Graff < 004dc9e91b6d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Can someone point me to a manual on how to read a JVM dump? I have little experience in this, and none current. But IBM has had some tools and doc on JVM dumps going back 10+ years, and maybe it's

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Reichman Joseph > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets > > We have here if anything large

Re: Follow up on Cancatenation RDJFCB

2016-08-22 Thread retired mainframer
You should look at the description of the RDJFCB macro in the DFSMSdfp Advanced Services manual. It appears you have the option of selecting which dataset in the concatenation you acquire data for. Once you have the JFCB for the dataset, the DSN should be in there. > -Original Message- >

Re: Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-22 Thread Janet Graff
Aha! I found an operator message with an MVS file name that I could load into IPCS. It doesn't have an abend summary though. Can someone point me to a manual on how to read a JVM dump? Janet -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Reichman Joseph
We have here if anything large amounts of data. So there are a number of files I must search thru. After I allocate the datasets (I think probably dynamically) I can do a GETDSAB to get the TIOT entry for the ddname. Then if I find what I am looking for I can use DCBTIOT (AL2) as an index to

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-22 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Yes, the purpose of consistency group(s) is to synchronize data to a point in time. However, I know consistency groups only in the context of mirroring, specifically XRC in our case. We flash copy from the XRC'ed mirror--already synchronized--to a third copy (where prod counts as 'copy 1'). I ha

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Maybe it would help to have more information on what process you are trying to do? That way the answer can be more targeted. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Reichman Joseph > Sent: Monday, August 22, 201

Re: IEFU8* exit points and RMF type 70

2016-08-22 Thread Charles Mills
Here's the problem: if you intercept IEFU83 and IEFU84 and it "works perfectly" you would never know it if you were missing .1% of the events that were coming through IEFU85. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: IEFU8* exit points and RMF type 70

2016-08-22 Thread Rob Scott
IIRC the type 70 record can be intercepted by IEFU83 when written by RMF, however you need IEFU84 when it is written by CMF. I would advise that you code your IEFU8x code to the requirements of IEFU85 just in case things change. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Aug 2016, at 17:22, Blaicher, Christo

Loading Java dump into IPCS

2016-08-22 Thread Janet Graff
I abended a Java/JNI/Assembler program and it generated a few output files. They are named - Snap.20160822.132237.65637.0003.trc - javacore.20160822.132237.65637.0002.txt The Snap looks like an IPCS Snap trace but I don't know how to load the dump into IPCS. It doesn't appear to take USS filen

Follow up on Cancatenation RDJFCB

2016-08-22 Thread Reichman Joseph
Hi I am searching a large number of datasets which is the reason I asked my first question, when I find what I am looking can the RDJFCB macro point me to the 44 bytes dataset name in that concatenation Thanks Joe Reichman Joe Reichman IT Specialist Master Files Division New Carrollton Federa

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Porowski, Ken
If I'm not mistaken, the 255 extent limit on partitioned applies to LINKLIST and LPALIST too. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
A "UNIT" in this case is a volume. A data set on a single volume, regardless of the number of extents, takes up 20 bytes in the TIOT. Each extra volume for that data set takes an additional 4 bytes, thus the 59 volume limit for a single data set. (255-16)/4=59 The 255 value is the limit of th

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread retired mainframer
>From the Processing a Sequential Data Set chapter of my DFSMS Using Data Sets manual (admittedly z/OS 1.11): "The number of data sets that you can concatenate with sequential concatenation is variable. It is governed by the maximum size of the TIOT option. The system programmer controls the TIOT

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Reichman Joseph
Lizette Don’t understand as the TIOT has one DDNAME unless of course I am doing the Allocation VIA SVC 99 dynamic allocation then I specify ddnames to be concatenated I think Joe Reichman Joe Reichman   IT Specialist Master Files Division New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182 OS:IT:AD:CP:

This Day in History: 22Aug1955, The First Computer User Group Is Founded

2016-08-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
This Day in History: 22Aug1955, The First Computer User Group Is Founded http://www.computerhistory.org/tdih/August/22/ Following a Los Angeles symposium hosted by IBM, a group of representatives from seventeen groups that had ordered the IBM 704 mainframe computer met at the RAND Corporation in S

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:55:02 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: > >Rule: You cannot concatenate VSAM data sets." > >-- >http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/seqcat.htm > I believe this. But once I tried (Black Team mode) concatenating a VSAM data set followed

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/22/2016 8:38 AM, Reichman Joseph wrote: I looked in the JCL reference and DFSMS bookshelf and did not see a limit on the number of concatenated datasets The number of data sets is not the limit. Rather, the limit is imposed by the size of the field in the DEB that records the total numbe

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
So from the ALLOCxx definition in MVS Init and Tuning z/OS V2.10. Table 1. Relationship size of TIOT and maximum number of DDs allowed Dec Hex Size of TIOTMaximum number Maximum number of DDs allowed of single unit DD Allowed when every DD re

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-08-22 o 17:38, Reichman Joseph pisze: Hi I looked in the JCL reference and DFSMS bookshelf and did not see a limit on the number of concatenated datasets Would anybody know if there is one ? Joe, Joe, There is no single number. for VSAM is zero - no concatenation allowed for PS

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:43:47 +, Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred) wrote: > >I think there is (or was?) a limit of 255 extents that can be allocated to a >DD name. Where a PDS(E) always counts as one extent regardless of the number >of extents allocated for that PDS(E). Any sequential dataset count

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Charles Mills
The Google say "The number of data sets that you can concatenate with sequential concatenation is variable. It is governed by the maximum size of the TIOT option. The system programmer controls the TIOT size with the option ALLOCxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB. The smallest TIOT value allows 819 singl

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred)
I looked in the JCL reference and DFSMS bookshelf and did not see a limit on the number of concatenated datasets Would anybody know if there is one ? Joe Reichman I think there is (or was?) a limit of 255 extents that can be allocated to a DD name. Where a PDS(E) always counts as one extent r

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Reichman Joseph
thanks Joe Reichman Joe Reichman   IT Specialist Master Files Division New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182 OS:IT:AD:CP:I:IB Flex M,T,Th,F Home office (240) 863 - 3965 Office (240) 613-4350 Cell (917) 748-9693 TOD M - F  7:30 am - 4:00 pm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Di

Re: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
Joe, There is one, yes. I believe it is 256. Advice from everyone else? Regards, Mitch McCluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Reichman Joseph To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 10:38 am Subject: Limit on the number of concatenated datasets Hi I looked in the

Limit on the number of concatenated datasets

2016-08-22 Thread Reichman Joseph
Hi I looked in the JCL reference and DFSMS bookshelf and did not see a limit on the number of concatenated datasets Would anybody know if there is one ? Thanks Joe Reichman Joe Reichman IT Specialist Master Files Division New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182 OS:IT:AD:CP:I:IB Flex M,T,Th,

Re: IEFU8* exit points and RMF type 70

2016-08-22 Thread Charles Mills
Cheryl's list is a wonderful resource but it cannot be considered definitive, especially with regard to exit numbers, and it is certainly not "binding" on IBM. You just cannot assume that a certain SMF record type will always come through a certain exit (unless it is a user type and you have con

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Rob Schramm
There was a presentation by Bob Rogers back when 64-bit became real. He brought along a woman that did the coding (can't remember her name) indicating that they had to scrap alot of the old scanning logic because it took longer to complete than the interval for the next scan. Rob Schramm On Mon,

Re: IEFU8* exit points and RMF type 70

2016-08-22 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
According to Watson/Walker it is IEFU83. See: http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/watsonwalker/ww/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/09233352/SMF-Reference-20150926.pdf Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Mainframe Development Syncsort Incorporated 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 P: 201-930-82

Re: Backup JES2 Spool & Restore with Warmstart

2016-08-22 Thread Ken Smith
I've not had the opportunity to work with mirroring but sounds like your flashcopy to secondary is the same thing I'm doing minus the transmission. And, the purpose of a consistency group is to have a point in time copy across volumes. Anyone else? Ken On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jesse 1 Ro

Re: IEFU8* exit points and RMF type 70

2016-08-22 Thread Tim Hare
Bringing this back up again because I still haven't found the answer yet. Are SMF type 70s written by RMF via branch-entry, requiring me to use IEFU85 exit point to examine them, or can I use just IEFU83 or IEFU84 ? -- For IBM-

Re: Request for Knowledge Center to search within book.

2016-08-22 Thread Susan Shumway
That URL doesn't work for me. Regardless, for searching within books, check out the experimental Search Scope Catalog and let me know what you think: www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/zos-search/zossearchscopes.html On 08/19/16 11:44 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: htt

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
A couple of our z/OS 2.1 systems have been IPLed this weekend and they all start with an UIC = 0. As far as I remember, it has always been this way. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: 22 August,

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Martin Packer
Note: Pages don't HAVE UICs anymore. They haven't for a long time. Just whether "referenced since last sweep through" or not. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Tw

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/22/2016 07:42 AM, Jaco Kruger wrote: > Good day, > > We are preparing to migrate from z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.2. The TST LPAR has 8GB > Central Storage assigned and it resides on IBM z13. > > On z/OS 1.13, the UIC count is 65535 during and after the IPL. On z/OS 2.2, > the UIC count is below

Re: Delta Ourage

2016-08-22 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 8:48 AM, John Mattson wrote: > Perhaps the rush to eliminate mainframes is to eliminate the embarrassment > of having them not fail when most everything else does. > > ​Most likely. I remember the mainframe being "stuck" with a severity 1 incident report as being "unavaila

Re: Delta Ourage

2016-08-22 Thread John Mattson
Perhaps the rush to eliminate mainframes is to eliminate the embarrassment of having them not fail when most everything else does. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.

Re: SMPSCDS SMPMTS SMPSTS SMPLTS DDDEFs in Distribution zone

2016-08-22 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 8/19/2016 8:26 PM, jerrysconsult...@gmail.com wrote: My SMPE distribution zone as delivered by serverpac has the subject DDDEFs pointing to the same datasets as the target zone. The SMPE Reference states these datasets in the target zone must or may be used in the related distribution zone.

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Martin Packer
I was going to offer that perhaps prior to 2.2 the UIC started at 64K-1 and now it doesn't. They key word being "perhaps". I suppose I have data around to test that conjecture - but I can't remember a data set where an IPL happened. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems In

Re: Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Feller, Paul
As far as I know a low UIC count right after an IPL is normal. I don't have a z/OS 1.13 system, but on our z/OS 2.1 and z/OS 2.2 systems do show a low UIC count after an IPL. The count gets higher over time. I think this is just the nature of the UIC. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Tech

Low UIC count on z/OS 2.2

2016-08-22 Thread Jaco Kruger
Good day, We are preparing to migrate from z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.2. The TST LPAR has 8GB Central Storage assigned and it resides on IBM z13. On z/OS 1.13, the UIC count is 65535 during and after the IPL. On z/OS 2.2, the UIC count is below 1000 during the IPL and it gradually increases. The Ce

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

2016-08-22 Thread Bill Woodger
Did I miss where C came into it? I've assumed an exutable (since the need is to make it non-executable) and created by the assembler. Amount of code to data I'm not aware of distinction. Are you just saying C would be a bad language to do this in because it has these oddnesses? ---