Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-10-11 Thread Brian Westerman
Unless your site is exceptionally large, it is more likely that you have some other sort of problem that is manifesting itself as memory related. We maintain a lot of sites and we have our software running at hundreds of others and I have never heard anyone complain that they are experiencing m

Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-10-11 Thread Mike Wawiorko
If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without realising it you may just need to review some settings. CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on multiple OSA queu

Re: CEEDUMP possible following 'new' failure

2016-10-11 Thread Peter Relson
The "callrtm command" will do no better than anything else that requires private storage of the address space to run. It is nothing more than a targeted cancel. Out of private storage is out of private storage. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -

Re: CEEDUMP possible following 'new' failure

2016-10-11 Thread Denis
Hi Peter, yes I am aware of that, but we also have hang conditions, where the jobs are not out of memory and it might help in those situations. Many of this situation occur when unix system services are in the game. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Peter Relson To: IBM-MAIN Sent:

Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
1. I don't think I had heard that PC/3270 File Transfer was field-developed. I would be interested in your source for that. 2. I don't think the OP has any double-byte type issues. In my experience I have only encountered APVUFILE at customers located in Asia. Charles -Original Message-

How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap second offset? Can it be set without an IPL? I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all happens automagically. Charles Mills October 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap second offset? Can it be set without an IPL? I searched System Com

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
So could in fact change without an IPL? That is really the core of my curiosity. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subje

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process. https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081 Charles Mills October 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM So could in fact

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP. Mark Jacobs Charles Mills October 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the paper only came out a couple of months ago.) The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone

Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

2016-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
Still working on the problem Tom Bre... ( not sure of the correct spelling author Of Vista ) suggested I try to link to FTP Link EP=FTP Wrote a dummy program and it worked However when I tried to test the code under TEST in my program bombed with a S0C4 I did have all three required files al

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the paper only came out a couple of months ago.) The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering" situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, go back to business as usual for a

Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Have a good holiday. By the way, if you want to combine two adventures, you can allocate to INTRDR dynamically with SVC 99. Look for a text unit called "output writer" or something like that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
*Somebody* sets it ... who and how? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How set CVTLSO? I don't think that CV

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
CVTLSO is all zero on our system, and we're using STP. EXT2: 00FDF670 +0004 NUCLS F1FLGBT 00IOCID F0F3 +0008 DEBVR 00FD93C2 CVAF. 00D5F000 MMVT. 00FD9688 +0014 NCVP. QIDA. 00OLTEP +0024 AVVT

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:43:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the >paper only came out a couple of months ago.) > It's hardly automatic; according to the reference: Lastly, through the Hardware Management Console, manually sche

Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

2016-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks For all your help have SVC 99 in my program So just have to plug in the right text units > On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Have a good holiday. > > By the way, if you want to combine two adventures, you can allocate to > INTRDR dynamically with SVC 99. Look for

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:13:16 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: >CVTLSO is all zero on our system, and we're using STP. > According to that white paper, it depends on how the HMC is configured. A number of shops choose to set CVTLSO=0 and ignore leap seconds (the "stering" option) because a (decreasing?)

Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

2016-10-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 10/10/2016 04:17 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 10/7/2016 at 08:09 AM, Tom Marchant > <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> To paraphrase the article, >> "Mainframe people are stupid and too snobbish to learn from us enlightened >> PC weenies." > I took it more like "Mainfra

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! I am starting to understand. Leap Second steering is accomplished with the PTFF instruction and is independent of CVTLSO. PTFF appears to slow down the physical clock. So ... steering and CVTLSO are essentially alternatives, right? CVTLSO should not include any leap seconds that were previousl

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:39:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Ah! I am starting to understand. Leap Second steering is accomplished with >the PTFF instruction and is independent of CVTLSO. PTFF appears to slow down >the physical clock. > >So ... steering and CVTLSO are essentially alternatives, right?

Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

2016-10-11 Thread Bill Woodger
I think there's at best a great deal of "faulty memory" here. Something was nagging, so I just did a bit of research. COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way smaller than 65K. Remembering that a backup copy has been saved, what did the clever PC expert do? Deleted the backup, and copied COMMAND.COM

Re: How set CVTLSO?

2016-10-11 Thread George Kozakos
> Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap > second offset? Can it be set without an IPL? > > I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything. > > Charles Via STP or Sysplex Timer Regards, George Kozakos z/OS Software Service, Level 2 Supervisor ---

RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(I know, should go to RACF List.) A user wants to list RACF profiles for all data sets beginning ABC. So I did this: [tso] LISTDSD PREFIX(ABC) I got a list of all profiles beginning ABC. When he did exactly the same thing, he got this: DATA SET userid.PREFIX NOT IN CATALOG We both hav

Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-10-11 Thread Feller, Paul
Mike, thanks for the information. I will review the documents. An update on one of our issues. It looks like IBM has found some type of bug related to CSM storage management. I'm being told an APAR is going to be created. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Me

Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Steely.Mark
Do a TSO PROFILE command from option 6. It appears one of you have profile prefix set and the other one doesn't have prefix set. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016

Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Greg Shirey
That's the message you get if you issue [tso] LISTDS PREFIX(ABC). At least that's what I got. LISTDSD works as intended Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robins

Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Answering multiple questions. PROFILE -- I have PREFIX set, but the command works for me without prepending my prefix. WAD -- If you do TSO H LISTDSD SYN you will see that the keyword PREFIX() is a valid filter. For me it's being interpreted that way; for the other guy it's ignoring '(ABC)' a

Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
> COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way smaller than 65K Good grief! Indeed, the minimum IBM PC was 16K! ("Pricing started at US$1,565 (equivalent to $4,073 in 2015) for a configuration with 16K RAM, Color Graphics Adapter, and no disk drives." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Comput

Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Ha! You can download COMMAND.COM here http://www.allbootdisks.com/disk_contents/dos.html. The 1988 MS-DOS 3.3 variant is 25.3K Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:2

Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Greg Shirey
Skip, I'm suggesting that he's entering the wrong command - LISTDS instead of LISTDSD. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5

Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

2016-10-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
With egg on face, I misread the string every time. Other guy fixed his command; it works. Thanks and apologies. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Orig

OT: Larre Shiller please contact me off-list (private mails don't reach you)

2016-10-11 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Sorry for this OT but I see not other way. Larre, You wrote me private mail regarding my HiperDispatch thread. I tried to respond and ask some questions by replying to your mail address. These mails get returned after some days by the mail server. If you're willing to talk about the APAR you m

Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

2016-10-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Paul, Could you share the APAR number if it is available? We go to 2.2 before the end of the year and the fix might be useful to take along. Regards, Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: 11 Octobe

New CALLRTM command? Where is it described? (was: CEEDUMP ....)

2016-10-11 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>The "callrtm command" will do no better than anything else that requires >private storage of the address space to run. It is nothing more than a >targeted cancel. Pardon my ignorance, but where is this new "command" described? I googled and searched IBM KC but only got references to the CALLRTM