Re: ALLOC command releasing space

2020-02-10 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
I wonder why space is being released with the TSO ALLOC command in the first place, this ALLOC command does not do this by itself. It must be defined somewhere in the mgmtclas definitions and/or ACS routines. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: ALLOC command releasing space

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:27:03 -0600, Fred Kaptein wrote: >Hello, >I have a user that is allocating a data set in TSO and REXX using the >following command > >ALLOC DA('ABCD.EFG') NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSALLDA) DSNTYPE(LIBRARY) LRECL(121) >RECFM(F B A) CYL SPACE(9) BLOCK(27951) DIR(100) > >The

Re: ALLOC command releasing space

2020-02-10 Thread Steve Beaver
Close=free is a function of the close file Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2020, at 18:27, Fred Kaptein wrote: > > Hello, > I have a user that is allocating a data set in TSO and REXX using the > following command > > ALLOC DA('ABCD.EFG') NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSALLDA) DSNTYPE(LIBRARY)

ALLOC command releasing space

2020-02-10 Thread Fred Kaptein
Hello, I have a user that is allocating a data set in TSO and REXX using the following command ALLOC DA('ABCD.EFG') NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSALLDA) DSNTYPE(LIBRARY) LRECL(121) RECFM(F B A) CYL SPACE(9) BLOCK(27951) DIR(100) The data set is allocated, but the unused space is released, so the data

Re: Determine if running under Secondary Subsystem

2020-02-10 Thread Steve Horein
JESCT? On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 1:22 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > The answers given so far imply that you know the names of the > primary/secondary subsystems and from that determine under which you run. > As far as I remember, there is a pointer to *the*

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:21:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 07:58:26 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote: > >>Given a USS file utf16.txt containing 6 UTF-16 characters, 12 bytes: >> >>>od -tx1 -An utf16.txt >>00 28 20 1C 00 61 20 1D 00 29 00 0A >> >>U+0028 is left

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks, that makes sense. On 2/10/2020 2:23 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Decimal instructions were affected. Character sets didn't really affect other instructions. On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:17 PM Tom Brennan wrote: I heard about that bit in college. Do you know what it was supposed to do

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Mike Schwab
Decimal instructions were affected. Character sets didn't really affect other instructions. On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:17 PM Tom Brennan wrote: > > I heard about that bit in college. Do you know what it was supposed to > do internally? > > On 2/10/2020 1:50 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > > On Feb

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Tom Brennan
I heard about that bit in college. Do you know what it was supposed to do internally? On 2/10/2020 1:50 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: ASCII wasn't finalized when the S/360 was announced. And it needed to use existing 7 bit peripherals, tapes,

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:50:59 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: >> >> ASCII wasn't finalized when the S/360 was announced. And it needed to >> use existing 7 bit peripherals, tapes, etc. > >But System/360 was pupposed to be an ASCII machine, or at least

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > > ASCII wasn't finalized when the S/360 was announced. And it needed to > use existing 7 bit peripherals, tapes, etc. > But System/360 was supposed to be an ASCII machine, or at least to transition to ASCII long term. There was a bit in the

Re: Downsizing? - OPS?

2020-02-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
I would like to thank everyone (on and off list) for their replies. I have several things to research. MPF, System Rexx, and such. CBT file 708. I was aware of Brian Westerman and Syzygy, Inc before. In fact, some years ago, when we almost indulged in a campaign to eliminate an ISV, they were on

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Mike Schwab
ASCII wasn't finalized when the S/360 was announced. And it needed to use existing 7 bit peripherals, tapes, etc. On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 1:27 PM Adam Jacobvitz <02b29b762ea6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > IBM mainframes still use EBCDIC? > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:54 AM, Paul

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 19:26:46 +, Adam Jacobvitz wrote: >IBM mainframes still use EBCDIC? > EBCDIC and Fixed-80 are among the bituminous progeny of the unholy union of OS/360 and the 029 keypunch. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

"It's about nothing" (was: UTF16 ...)

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 15:16:13 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: > >On my list of "things to do when I finish the time machine": No ASCII/EBCDIC >divide; no null-terminated strings. And something else, I forget what right >now. I have time, I can always do it last week. > You've complained about

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Adam Jacobvitz
IBM mainframes still use EBCDIC? On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:54 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:43:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >>Why wasn't it simple matter of replacing "colon" with ":" and removing the >>spaces? >> > My

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:43:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Why wasn't it simple matter of replacing "colon" with ":" and removing the >spaces? > My fingers betrayed me and deleted one character too many. I find "roboprig" overly generous; I'd call this software a robovandal. I'm getting

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why wasn't it simple matter of replacing "colon" with ":" and removing the spaces? I find "roboprig" overly generous; I'd call this software a robovandal. I'm getting broadband at home, and am curious whether it is just the webmail or the mail server that is rewriting message text. Depending

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 07:58:26 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote: >Given a USS file utf16.txt containing 6 UTF-16 characters, 12 bytes: > >>od -tx1 -An utf16.txt >00 28 20 1C 00 61 20 1D 00 29 00 0A > >U+0028 is left parenthesis >U+201C is left double quotation mark >U+0061 is small letter

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 23:39:38 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >EBCDIC, EBCDIC DBCS, UTF-16, and ASCII all require the user to know >the code page for the data set. ... > Practically, no. A typical modern system has a ubiquitous default Unicode page and most editors, shells, interpreters, compilers,

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
DBCS is not Unicode. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 11:06 PM To:

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
All talk about *anything* you don't understand is potentially dangerous. Typically people blow away critical distinctions until they have been burned. Experience keeps a dear school. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Those all relate to Unicode, not to EBCDIC DBCS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020

Re: SMPE APPLY SOURCEID vs FIXCAT

2020-02-10 Thread Mike Martin
Thanks Kurt, (I'm still a little fuzzy on the FIXCAT() PARM on the APPLY, but it doesn't sound likely that I will ever use that) The important things for me are... 1) Use SOURCEID for the when performing an apply for a FIXCAT category (which is what I've always done). 2) Before applying,

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Don Poitras
Be careful _which_ utf-16 you've got. This example is "big-endian". If you do a binary copy of a file from Windows it's going to be "little-endian" and you need to do the iconv using 1202 instead of 1200.

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
ASCII is a subset of Unicode, and the UTF-8 transform of an ASCII code point is that code point, so I'd say total upward compatibility. Of course, ASCII had compatibility issues with itself in the early days, with some bizarre dualing of code points. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not quite. There are multiple EBCDIC code pages and multiple EBCDIC code pages, but ASCII is a single 7-bit character set. There are multiple code pages that match ASCII at 0-127 or a proper subset of that, e.g., 437, 850, 8859-*. UTF-16 is a transform of Unicode, encoding 20-bit bytes using

Re: SMPE APPLY SOURCEID vs FIXCAT

2020-02-10 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 2/7/2020 2:14 PM, MARTIN, MIKE wrote: I am trying to figure out the difference between using SOURCEID vs. FIXCAT for an APPLY? Example below... APPLY CHECK SOURCEID (IBM.Function.GlobalMirror) SOURCEID(IBM.Function.GlobalMirror) is the selection criteria. PTFs that have the specified

Re: UTF16 to EBCDIC

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Godfrey
Given a USS file utf16.txt containing 6 UTF-16 characters, 12 bytes: >od -tx1 -An utf16.txt 00 28 20 1C 00 61 20 1D 00 29 00 0A U+0028 is left parenthesis U+201C is left double quotation mark U+0061 is small letter "a" U+201D is right double quotation mark U+0029 is right