Re: NJE via SNA/EE

2020-09-17 Thread Barbara Nitz
>We ran a mixture of TCP and SNA NJE for a long, long time and then >eventually (by accident in fact) ended up with an OSA hardware >configuration that could no longer support SNA. We couldn't use EE >because both ends of the connection were not MVS. So we capitulated and >changed everything over t

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Yes. בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 8:58, מאת Peter ‏: > IEALPAxx and LPALSTxx treated in same way ? > > > > > On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 9:44 am Seymour J Metz, wrote: > > > You can search an LPA module with IPCS. > > > > In addition to the SETPROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro. > > > > > > -- >

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Peter
IEALPAxx and LPALSTxx treated in same way ? On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 9:44 am Seymour J Metz, wrote: > You can search an LPA module with IPCS. > > In addition to the SETPROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > __

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
You can search an LPA module with IPCS. In addition to the SETPROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Peter, To load into dynamic lpa use setprog,add,modname= To test if already loaded use d prog,lpa,modname= There are macro calls for both if you want to do that from a program. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 6:43, מאת Peter ‏: > Hello > > Is there any utility which can help to sear

Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Peter
Hello Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a ignorant question) We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just trying to understand if it's possible to load it dynamically without the n

Re: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread retired mainframer
Users probably need read access to mcat so they can access SYS1.MACLIB and others like it. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How get a user

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Gil, No documentation at all. Merely trial and error observation. A few years ago I had good business reasons to use z/OS awk for a research project for my employer and found that it works using "classic" datasets for both input and output. Whether it was INTENDED by IBM to do so is a questi

Re: MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
For my money, the quickest and most reliable way to find the 'latest PTF' of a load module is to use the PDS command or its progeny StarTool. Select the member you want to query in its load library. For example, we're currently working on module AMAPDUPL In MIGLIB. Use the 'HISTORY' subcommand:

Re: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Maybe I need a make-up class at Saturday morning vocab class. Then again maybe it's a distinction without a difference. Here's why you do *not* want to over-grant update access to the master catalog. -- For the average user, there should be some user catalog pointed to by an alias in mcat. The

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Lennie Bradshaw
I did not intend to start a storm of messages here. I was simply using the IBM definition of system integrity which they document here, https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/capabilities/system-integrity Yes, maybe it is semantics. But many working in IBM mainframe security community would dis

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
How does the interpretation of Peter Farley's question depend on anybody's definition of support except Peter's. Only if IBM asked the question would IBM's definition be relevant. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Main

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 17:17:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It may depend on how you define support. There are some utilities that work >but for which the documentation doesn't mention it. The DD: recognition is >unsupported in the sense that if it breaks IBM will not consider that an error. > It

Re: Web Enablement Toolkit

2020-09-17 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Bill, check the 2nd post in this topic by Galina https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/2wlNViP1ndc Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...

Web Enablement Toolkit

2020-09-17 Thread Bill Wilkie
I have been trying to get the Web Enablement Toolkit for z/OS working using a sample from SYS1.SAMPLIB member name HWTHXRX1. But I am getting an error message : HTTP Web Enablement Toolkit Sample Begin *ERROR* (hwthconn) at time: 11:59:15 **

Re: J/TIP

2020-09-17 Thread scott Ford
David, What are you trying to accomplish with this program or set of programs ? A little more verb age would be great. Scott On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 5:53 AM David Spiegel wrote: > No. > > > > On 2020-09-16 23:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > JTIP is more of an unsupported SAPI; it doesn't do w

Re: MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not if by prior you mean lower number. The safe thing to do is to query the status of the PTF you're concerned with. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thurs

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
It may depend on how you define support. There are some utilities that work but for which the documentation doesn't mention it. The DD: recognition is unsupported in the sense that if it breaks IBM will not consider that an error. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 _

Re: MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's common for IBM to release multiple fixing PTFs for a single APAR, where the PTFs address essentially the same problem/function in multiple releases. This is often the case when two or more PTFs are close in numerical sequence. The best answer is found in IBM ServiceLink function SIS, which

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
That depends on the type of access they have and on the dataset profiles. The part about filling up the MC, of course, applies regardless. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> Note that I changed your EQ to GE. So it would stop after reading no > more than 1001 irrelevant records, much improving the performance > for the OP's "very large" SORTIN. Note also that the OP said SORTIN > had previously been sorted, so no records having key LT,'ABC' would > precede the d

Re: [External] MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Pommier, Rex
Bill, If UI70029 supercedes UI69028, then yes, the code correction in UI69028 is included. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] MEPL showing

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Nash, Jonathan S.
Im sorry I was joking about AWK and especially SED thought there are people who would do it :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: COBOL ? Re:

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: HCL Internal Would you allow random updates of the ROOT directory on a *NIX system?. This is definitely both a integrity and an operational exposure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:14

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Steve Smith
There's not much benefit to debating the semantics of "integrity". Nobody who doesn't thoroughly understand catalog management should be able to update the master catalog, because you can easily destroy the system by removing critical dataset entries. Much more typically, it just fills up with ju

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 14:58:44 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very >familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, ... > Citation needed. According to what IBM document? On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 0

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Gibney, David Allen
I could damage the catalog, perhaps as easily as adding datasets until I overflow it. Perhaps not integrity as in ability to upgrade my authority, but certainly a potential DOS and a threat to system stability. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Le

Re: MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Steve Smith
PTF numbers are assigned in increasing order, but there's no real guarantee that reflects the order they apply in. In addition to Mark Jacobs' advice, you can also just list the sysmod you're interested in; as it could have been SUPed and not show up directly on the MOD entry. sas On Thu, Sep 1

FIXCAT service

2020-09-17 Thread McCabe, Ron
Our DR vendor just upgraded their mainframe (upgraded a z13 to a z14) ... when we recover our system we restore our z/VM 7.1 system first and then restore our z/OS 2.2 system as a guest under our VM. We have been debating whether we need to do the Required Service that a FIXCAT report produces

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> Can you set an a priori upper bound on the number of 'ABC' records? > Suppose you're confident that there are at most 1000. Gil, Unfortunately that wouldn't work. If your input have less than 1000 records for the key 'ABC' and you code STOPAFT=1001, then it would read the entire file as we di

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Of course that is possible, and it is an option that I am aware of. It's just not as immediately usable as a control-card-only solution would be. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Christopher Y. Blaicher Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:28

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, but very few other programmers in the shop would know how to use it, or support it in my absence. And an E15 exit is always a possibility. I wa

Re: NJE via SNA/EE

2020-09-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/16/2020 10:21 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote: Thanks, Brian, This is almost always a problem with the VTAM definition of the NJE applid that you are using. Possibly you didn't start it or it was started before VTAM or JES was ready for it to be started. The NJE/TCP connection method should wor

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Unfortunately, no IBM FM here. CA FM is here and might be an option. Its performance has been adequate for programming needs, but I have not put it to the test on the really big files. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Van Dyke Sent: Wed

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Indeed, Rexx is an option but not the fastest tool in the box. And I don't know about sed but z/OS awk (perhaps not intentionally) does indeed support "classic" datasets via DD. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, S

Re: MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
Execute a batch SMP/e job; LIST MOD(modname) XREF. That'll list all the PTFS and such that touched that module. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Messa

MEPL showing the latest PTF

2020-09-17 Thread Bill Giannelli
If I want to know if a given PTF is applied to a specific module, such as UI69028, but I see UI70029. Does that mean prior PTFs are included? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send ema

Thread id using BPX1GTH

2020-09-17 Thread Pierre Fichaud
For the current TCB, I want to extract the thread id. I'm using BPX1GTH. I'm varying the values for PGTHACCESSID and PGAACCESSTHID. When I get zeros for return value, return code and reason code, the thread id is always 0. I'm wondering if this is the right approach. If it is, what values are ne

Re: SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread Joe Monk
No, its because the process uses java... Joe On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:57 AM kekronbekron < 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I could be *completely* wrong .. so ... will wait for the list to correct > me. > Think this could be because TCP/IP is built 'in' USS, and theref

Re: SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread kekronbekron
I could be *completely* wrong .. so ... will wait for the list to correct me. Think this could be because TCP/IP is built 'in' USS, and therefore the ShopZ job, which probably does HTTPS to IBM, needs to get its stuff into USS. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, September 17, 202

Re: SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 05:42:35 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >When I order software maintenance and download it, why does it need to go to >USS first? >thanks > o If uses tools such as pax for which classic MVS has no equivalent. o The SMPNTS contains a variety of data organization beyond the cap

Re: SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread Ron Wells
Because of the trend to regress... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMPe ptfs download to USS ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** When I order software mai

Re: SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Because that is how they built the process -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMPe ptfs download to USS When I order software maintenance and download it, why

SMPe ptfs download to USS

2020-09-17 Thread Bill Giannelli
When I order software maintenance and download it, why does it need to go to USS first? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: J/TIP

2020-09-17 Thread David Spiegel
No. On 2020-09-16 23:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: JTIP is more of an unsupported SAPI; it doesn't do what SDSF does. Various versions of Wylbur supported it as an alternative SPOOL access. Do you have a batch version of Wylbur at your shop? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://eur03.safelinks.pr

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: How get a user to use his own catalog rather than master?

2020-09-17 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Dave, Sorry, but I actually disagree with Master catalog access being an integrity issue. I would classify it as a security issue rather than an integrity issue. The normal controls on the operating system are working correctly and are not being bypassed, so I don't see that as an integrity iss