Re: Programs that work right the first time.

2021-08-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Try putting together the necessary code to drill down a hierarchical database like IMS.* *Do until RC = 'GB'* *GET NEXT* *End* On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:32 PM Tom Conley wrote: > On 8/21/2021 9:31 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > This part of the thread got me thinking. How often do you write

Re: Programs that work right the first time.

2021-08-21 Thread David Spiegel
Maybe you should have bought a lottery ticket that day? On 2021-08-21 22:32, Tom Conley wrote: On 8/21/2021 9:31 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: This part of the thread got me thinking. How often do you write a program that works right the first time, with no compile or execution errors?  I'm not

Re: Programs that work right the first time.

2021-08-21 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/21/2021 9:31 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: This part of the thread got me thinking. How often do you write a program that works right the first time, with no compile or execution errors? I'm not talking about two-liners, of course, or even ten-liners; let's say 30 or thereabouts. Please

Re: Programs that work right the first time.

2021-08-21 Thread Bill Johnson
“Programming” in REXX, CLIST, and similar types of languages is hardly programming. Real programming is hundreds or thousands of lines of COBOL, with IMS, DB2, or CICS calls. I was pretty damn good too. Started off in COBOL/IMS 4 decades ago. Did a little bit of COBOL/CICS and quite a bit of

Programs that work right the first time.

2021-08-21 Thread Bob Bridges
This part of the thread got me thinking. How often do you write a program that works right the first time, with no compile or execution errors? I'm not talking about two-liners, of course, or even ten-liners; let's say 30 or thereabouts. Please specify the language, too, since it seems to me

Re: even an old mainframer can do it

2021-08-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, yes; not only more charitable, but more likely. Thank you. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You know what I did before I married? Anything I wanted to. -Henny Youngman */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles

Re: even an old mainframer can do it

2021-08-21 Thread Charles Mills
Or she was having some fun with him. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: even an old mainframer can do it Going out

Re: even an old mainframer can do it

2021-08-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Going out on a limb, here, but either your boss was an arrant liar (which you did not suggest), or she never wrote a COBOL program of more than 30 or 40 lines in the PROCEDURE DIVISION. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Joking is undignified, that's why it's so good

Re: even an old mainframer can do it

2021-08-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Hm, that cautionary tale gets me thinking. When I'm writing a REXX of any complexity, say more than 100 lines, I find it useful to write a bit of it, run it to debug, then add the next piece, run it again, and so on. Otherwise debugging is much more difficult; my way, when the program bombs I

Re: TCP/IP Sysplex Distributor Options

2021-08-21 Thread Joe Monk
Round robin DNS isnt a good choice here. That means that when a DNS server gives out the IP of the offline server, it will be retained by the client for the TTL period. Thus if the TTL period is 15 minutes, then 25% of the user base wont be able to access the app for that amount of time. Probably

Re: TCP/IP Sysplex Distributor Options

2021-08-21 Thread Jon Evo
Charles, as long as your user means they want a single dns name to connect to (not actual IP addr), would getting your dns folk setup a round robin DNS entry for your 4 servers be a solution? It's a simpler form of load balancing but works and zero work required on z. Rgds, Jon