Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

wow... I'm so glad I retired a few years ago. and that I spent more time with VM/CMS, AIX and Unix (with Perl) than fooling with Rexx! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@list

Looked at Destination Z lately?

www.destinationz.org isn't quite what one would expect for IBM's mainframe community website. Did someone let domain registration expire, was it hacked or redirected? -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. g...@gabegold.com 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

>> I would also like for the date of Easter, day of the week Christmas falls >> on, the moon phase, and the Chinese zodiac year to be appended. Steve, Your wish is granted for Easter day 😊 https://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?p=63383#63383 Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development IBM C

Re: SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

>> Does anyone have a .pdf of an old IBM redbook called 'System/390 MVS >> Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' (SG24-2557) that they'd be willing to >> share? Michael, Does book manager format help? https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SG24255700 If you need the

Re: SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

Michael, Fortunately, I downloaded that redbook years ago, before it was withdrawn from the redbook website. At one point, I supplied my copy to one of the authors! It was my bible for tuning LSR buffer pools. I would be happy to send you a copy. Allan On Thu, Jun 30

SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

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Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

Hi, You said: "... lunar calendar used in Israel ..." The lunar calendar is used by all Jews, not just Jews in Israel. That is why Passover, Chanukah, Rosh HaShanah etc. don't always start on the same solar date. Regards, David On 2022-06-30 19:35, Retired Mainframer wrote: -Original Mes

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

I would also like for the date of Easter, day of the week Christmas falls on, the moon phase, and the Chinese zodiac year to be appended. Otherwise, DFSORT is so lame. sas On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 7:36 PM Retired Mainframer < 03a485c129c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > -Original

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

On 30/06/2022 11:21 am, Charles Mills wrote: Charles knows C++ so I don't understand why he would pick REXX One factor is that my deployment machine does not have a C++ compiler and does not share DASD with my development machine. So for C++ the cycle is Sound compelling, doesn't it? Unfortun

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

On 1/07/2022 8:13 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried this in Rexx. I found it astonishingly hard to get "the end of the current month". Would DFSORT do betteer? I tried it in Java: import java.time.LocalDate; import java.time.format.DateTimeFormatter; public class DateList {     public stati

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 22:22:08 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>>I tried this in Rexx. I

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

>> So it accounts for thee switch from Julian to Gregorian in Catholic >> countries in 1582 and in Protestant countries in 1752? Not really. For older years. it just follows the general rules of Leap year and it is not specific to any country. Thanks, Kolusu --

Re: Yet another question about Pervasive Encryption - CF

W dniu 30.06.2022 o 15:56, Mark A. Brooks pisze: If you run the policy utility IXCMIAPU to create/replace an administrative policy in the CFRM CDS, then for any structure definition that specifies ENCRYPT(YES), the system will create an encryption key for that structure provided the CFRM CDS do

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

If your data goes back that far. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates On Thu,

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 22:22:08 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>>I tried this in Rexx. I found it astonishingly hard to get "the end of the >>>current month". > >DFSORT has plethora of date related functions that can get the last day of >month, Quarter and year quite easily in either Gregorian forma

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 17:29:31 -0400, Billy Ashton wrote: >... >Having more dates than this is fine, and is no problem to go back even >another month and ahead even another month. > So would current date - 61 days through current date + 30 days be acceptable in all cases? -- gil -

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

nth X, # Space 01,08,Y4T,LASTDAYQ,TOGREG=Y4T, # Lastday of Qaurter X, # Space 01,08,Y4T,LASTDAYY,TOGREG=Y4T) # Lastday of year /* Output 20220630 20220630 20220630 20221231 /* N

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

Billy, If I understand your requirement correctly, you need current month begin to end and 1 or 2 months before the current month. So if you are run the job today(June 30th), it will generate the dates from April 1st to June 30th. If you run the job on July 1st then it would generate dates be

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 20:23:16 +, Billy Ashton wrote: >... >I would like to use SORT to generate a file ... > >I need this for about 3 months worth of dates. The dates should start >either on the 15th of the month, 2 months ago, or 45 days ago (whichever >is easier) and go up through the e

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

Kolusu, the key data is that I have the previous month start and end date (for today, it would be May 1 and 31), with some range of dates before that. I also need at least the end of the current month (June 30, today). For running it tomorrow, I need at least June 1 - 30 (with some dates in May

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

>> I need this for about 3 months worth of dates. . The dates should start >> either on the 15th of the month, 2 months ago, or 45 days ago (whichever is >> easier) Billy, It is easy to generate the dates in the required format, however a few clarifications needed. • Can the dates start

Re: FTP error receiving holddata

> Which server is now available to pull HOLDDATA. If I'm not mistaken a few > changes were made that cause this long time process to fail in this shop. > What should replace "service.bouler.ibm.com" what should now be used > to transmit via FTP? Try public.dhe.ibm.com instead. Or t

Re: How to identify holddata date

> I found it here > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/understanding-rsu-and-put-process but I > might mis interpreted the sentence saying "The PUT (Program Update Tape) > process is being phased out". Well now, isn't that interesting? I don't know what the author of that page meant by that sta

Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

o up through the end of the current month (it could even start on the 1st day of 2 months ago if necessary). So for today (June 30), it would have ('D001','2022-04-15','20220415',20220415,'20','22','04','15') ('D002',&#

Re: AF/OPER replacement with BMC Mainview AutoOperator

Since IBM's announcement, we have more than doubled our number of clients using the Syzygy Automation Suite, and I imagine that BMC has had a jump in customers as well. I have helped convert many people from AF/O and from BMC to our products (which are both less expensive and better IMHO), and

Re: How to identify holddata date

I found it here https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/understanding-rsu-and-put-process but I might mis interpreted the sentence saying "The PUT (Program Update Tape) process is being phased out". Thanks, ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitorin

Re: Interesting PR move

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-seay-985bb21/?trk=public_post_follow-vie w-profile Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Su

Re: How to identify holddata date

> I read somewhere that IBM decided to discontinue PUTyymm files and only use > RSUyymm for monthly accumulated fix files. I visited the link, missed the > table some how. It was your use of the term "files" that threw me. Just to be clear, there are no specific "files" for PUT or RSU. Both P

Re: REXX outside TSO

Brainfcuk? Better look at this < http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-malbolge-995.html> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022, 20:49 Paul Gilmartin, < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:44:15 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > > >I've heard the word "awk", but never be

Re: Java?

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:49:09 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> Why is "requires dubbing" a thing? > >Because it can fail? > Lots of things can fail. >But perhaps more serious for Java on z/OS is that as far as I know it >requires UNIXy file syst

Re: Java?

Because you need to provide uid/gid for the user, either in his OMVS segment or implicitly. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c

Re: FTP error receiving holddata

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:39:27 +, James, Joseph L. (CTR) wrote: >Which server is now available to pull HOLDDATA. If I'm not mistaken a few >changes were made that cause this long time process to fail in this shop. >What should replace "service.bouler.ibm.com" what should now be use

Re: Java?

Why does it bother you that I mention dubbing in a context where it is required? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-r

Re: Java?

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > >I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in > Linux. Off the mainframe, it's also available for many PC and

Re: REXX outside TSO

On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:44:15 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >I've heard the word "awk", but never been exposed to it. I had the >impression, though, that I've heard of it in the context of Unix; am I >mistaken? > Somewhere in this tangle of threads someone mentioned BASIC for brevity. I convert

Re: Java?

Hi Gil, "...traumatized during gestation by a dubbing? ..." Maybe, too many foreign movies? {:->} Regards, David On 2022-06-30 13:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: "dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z

Re: Java?

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >"dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you >run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), >then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C and uses z/OS Unix >services

FTP error receiving holddata

Which server is now available to pull HOLDDATA. If I'm not mistaken a few changes were made that cause this long time process to fail in this shop. What should replace "service.bouler.ibm.com" what should now be used to transmit via FTP? Received RC=1808FTP process //*

Re: REXX outside TSO

re: "Cygwin? The only thing that made Windows tolerable for me. Ubuntu basn?" The recent versions of Windows allow running Ubuntu or more other distributions of Linux, m/l "natively". Look up "Windows Subsystem for Linux" or "wsl.exe" or https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/ All of

Re: How to identify holddata date

Thanks Kurt, I read somewhere that IBM decided to discontinue PUTyymm files and only use RSUyymm for monthly accumulated fix files. I visited the link, missed the table some how. Best, ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Securi

Re: Interesting PR move

Interesting and heartening. Now could IBM US and major US city governments get it together and do the same for the hundreds of thousands of inner-city youth with similar limited access to high-quality education? That would be a game changer. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: Yet another question about Pervasive Encryption - CF

And THAT is 100% of your RDA of acronyms for one post, Mark! (Not criticizing, just laughing that this would be several times 100% gibberish several times over to mere mortals) On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:56 AM Mark A. Brooks wrote: > If you run the policy utility IXCMIAPU to create/replace an ad

Interesting PR move

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Re: How to identify holddata date

>- When exactly IBM releases the monthly RSU? beginning of next month? Correct, in the first week of the month IBM assigns PTFs to the prior month's RSU level. >- I noticed that some PTFs such as security related have NVD like >severity (Bx.y) What is A in Symptoms? I believe "A" is

Re: Java?

"dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C and uses z/OS Unix services. Actually in this case it would be the JZOS batch launc

Re: Yet another question about Pervasive Encryption - CF

If you run the policy utility IXCMIAPU to create/replace an administrative policy in the CFRM CDS, then for any structure definition that specifies ENCRYPT(YES), the system will create an encryption key for that structure provided the CFRM CDS does not already have a key for the structure. That

Re: Java?

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linux. Off >the mainframe, it's also available for many PC and server systems. > Why is "requires dubbing" a thing? -- gil

Re: Listing of files (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

Be careful with recursion down directory trees. If you get deep enough rexx terminates with a blown stack. With enough thought, recursion could always be done with loops. Check out /samples/copytree. It has code to recurse through arbitrary depth trees. Bill Schoen -Original Message-

Re: Basic question on SYSCALL(S)

Procinfo() is only available in the unix environment. I do have some regret for not making the function package available in any rexx environment. Sounds like it would be a good requirement. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=services-zos-unix-rexx-functions Bill Schoen -Original Me

Re: AF/OPER replacement with BMC Mainview AutoOperator

What about AOF or TSSO from the CBTTAPE? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original M

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Re: AF/OPER replacement with BMC Mainview AutoOperator

Hi, in the past I did several replacement from different Automated Operator to BMC AutoOperator. IMHO, it's a good and reliable product. REXX is fully supported (with some extensions to share data with the main task too). It can react to messages and events, from console and more. Best regards.

Re: REXX outside TSO

Like vi, awk is a tool that is ubiquitous, at least on Unix and Unix-like systems. Go, Java, Lua, Perl, Python, Rexx and Ruby might not be there, but awk almost certainly will be. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainfr

Re: AF/OPER replacement with BMC Mainview AutoOperator

In the 1990's I was tasked with the opposite task -- Going from BMC to AF/OPER. The details have faded, but it can be done. Does anybody know if BMC allows REXX code to execute in response to messages and events? I am also looking into AF/OPER replacements but am having troubles finding on

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

The fact that IBM bothered to do SysRexx suggests that they see value in it. I've never found running ISPF in batch to be awkward. Any large volume CPU-bound task is best implemented in a language that can be compiled to machine code; that includes languages with effective JIT compilation. So,

Re: Basic question on SYSCALL(S)

You have to learn and understand the difference between commands and functions. It's always a program underneath, but the syntax and the API are different. Where did you get the idea that "x = procinfo..." should work? sas On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 7:09 AM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw < 032fff1be9

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

PKB. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

That behavior is expected, and useful, in any Rexx implementation. What was unexpected was that SYSCALLS("ON") was the entire statement, rather than a snippet. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

Note that ADDRESS WITH is new with ooRexx 5.0, which last I saw was still in beta. It's been in Regina for a long time. OTOH, facilities such as DO OVER has been in OREXX and ooRexx for decades, and are quite useful. And, yes, similar facilities are available in other languages, e.g., Python, R

Re: Allocating PC numbers

If you aren't using AXSET you certainly don't need AXRES. And many use AXSET with an AX of 1 (a special value), and don't use AXRES. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access i

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

Hi, On 30/06/2022 06:28, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:22:10 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: ... "99 Bottles of Beer" is more concise in C++ than in Python, and MUCH more concise in BASIC. Does that make BASIC a better language? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Bottles_of_Bee

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

I believe that the current ooRexx is faster but that it is 64-bit only, and still slower than Regina when running classic Rexx code. There is no requirement that I know of to write a DSL for foo in foo. With regard to Lua, it's the implementation language for wiki extensions. -- Shmuel (Seymou

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

Whoops! I missed that SYSCALLS("ON") was the entire statement. When a statement contains only an expression, then the value of that expression must be a valid command in the current environment. Put the SYSCALLS in an assignment statement, put it in an IAF statement or use CALL rather than a f

PDFBox (Re: REXX outside TSO

At you could select the keyword "PDFBox" to get at the Bachelor thesis of Cristina Dobrea who had created nutshell examples in ooRexx to demonstrate how to use that library to create and manipulate PDF files. "PDFBox" is an open-source Java library from

Re: Yet another question about Pervasive Encryption - CF

W dniu 30.06.2022 o 11:58, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze: As far as I understand CF structures are encrypted on z/OS side, which means before data leave z/OS box and travel over sysplex link. And it looks quite simple to enable encryption - just add ENCRYPT parameter. However there is no place to pro

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

No, this is just people using an old and established indentation style that you don't happen to like; the style is decades older than Python. Of course, half a century ago people were already arguing fervently about the one revealed indentation style. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.g

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

No! You need a space after SYSCALLS and don't need the parentheses: call syscalls 'on' if result > 3... foo = syscalls('on') if foo > 3 ... if syscalls('on') > 3 ... -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Scopes, environments (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

On 30.06.2022 01:28, David Crayford wrote: On 30/06/2022 5:33 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 22:22:39 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: This is an old OS/2 REXX program (from the 1990s, IIRC), used to traverse a directory tree recursively and issue a command in every subdirectory foun

Basic question on SYSCALL(S)

Greetings all, I am new to using the SYSCALL environment, so the recent discussion was useful to me. I am looking to understand what I need to do to get something working but I am hitting a silly error somewhere. Here is my REXX routine. I am attempting to run this in my TSO session. /* REXX */

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

z/OS 2.5 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services, SA23-2283-50, p. 20, Specifying strings, at lists the options: unquoted value, quoted with ' or ", name in parentheses. "address SYS

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IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Go enables organizations to run the popular Go programming language on the IBM zSystems platform. It provides a powerful framework for building fast and scalable applications for z/OS and offers the facility to write applications in support of cloud infrastructures. I

Secure sockets (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

On 30.06.2022 00:52, David Crayford wrote: On 30/06/2022 6:37 am, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Gentle listers, Can we all agree to let this discussion be resolved by agreeing to the Perl mongers motto, TMTOWTD TWTOWTD? Or maybe not. Show me how to create a secure socket in REXX without using

Re: Java?

I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linux. Off the mainframe, it's also available for many PC and server systems. Learning as new language is always goodness, if you have the time, especially if you get hit with a new requirement in the future. -- Shmuel (Seymou

Listing of files (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

On 29.06.2022 23:24, David Crayford wrote: On 30/06/2022 4:22 am, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: This is an old OS/2 REXX program (from the 1990s, IIRC), used to traverse a directory tree recursively and issue a command in every subdirectory found: /* rexx */ arg command call RxFuncAdd "SysLoadFun

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

z/OS 2.5 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services, SA23-2283-50, p. 21, in Returned from the SYSCALL environment at , shows -3 as "The command environment has not been called. Probably the

Syntax checking plugin ... (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

On 29.06.2022 17:39, Bob Bridges wrote: My first language was a subset of PL/1, and I still think it's a great language, but there doesn't seem to be much call for it at the clients I serve. I didn't know PL/1 programmers indent the END with the paragraph; I thought it was just my preference,

Yet another question about Pervasive Encryption - CF

As far as I understand CF structures are encrypted on z/OS side, which means before data leave z/OS box and travel over sysplex link. And it looks quite simple to enable encryption - just add ENCRYPT parameter. However there is no place to provide key label. My guess: the key is dynamically gene

Re: SCSI volume HMC

IMHO it is not HMC task. Instead you should use ...another HMC. I mean disk array console. Don't forget about zoning => switch console. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.06.2022 o 10:48, Peter pisze: Hello Good morning From the HMC, how to verify if the SCSI or FBA volume is enab

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

You need to invest in a new IDE. You can get free stuff that support the mainframe over TCP here https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2021/12/01/zowe-embraces-visual-studio-code-extensions. If you are prepared to spend money you have more options. This includes deployment to sync projed

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

Two short comments to add some heat to the discussion; sorry for that ... I have to leave for the next two days, so I will not be able to follow what happens, but anyway: 1) to David: this is only personal view, not a valid argument (not backed by facts); IMO REXX has many unique features whi