Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/11/22 1:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: I would refer anyone genuinely interested in sibling pend to download and review Dr. H. Pat Artis's "Sibling Pend: Like a Wheel Within a Wheel" 1996 CMG paper (available to download at Dr. Pat's site http://www.perfassoc.com ). While the technology

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Warren Brown
Hey mainframers is Rob Jackson still doing updates? On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 01:12:05 PM EDT, Charles Mills wrote: App received HOW NOW,    BROWN COW Quoting the command preserves the lower case, even with the embedded blanks. (No, I did not test every permutation.) /F

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Karl S Huf
I would refer anyone genuinely interested in sibling pend to download and review Dr. H. Pat Artis's "Sibling Pend: Like a Wheel Within a Wheel" 1996 CMG paper (available to download at Dr. Pat's site http://www.perfassoc.com ). While the technology underpinning storage has changed a lot the

ISFSLASH, MGCRE? ...?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 10:11:51 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >... >Quoting the command preserves the lower case, even with the embedded blanks. >(No, I did not test every permutation.) >/F procname,'How now, Brown Cow' >App received 'How now, Brown Cow' > I had been working on the

Re: DUMPs protection question

2022-07-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:40:10 + "jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar" <01f9499d67db-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>Hi! :> :>I have a question regarding IEAABD.DMPAUTH / IEAABD.DMPAKEY resources in RACF FACILITY class: :> :> :>1- In this context, when the RACF "Security Administrator

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 10:11:51 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >... >/F procname,'How now, Brown Cow' >App received 'How now, Brown Cow' > >Note that the quotes are included in what the app receives. > But how did you enter the command? o From an operator's console? o From HLASM MGCRE? o

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-11 Thread Colin Paice
My comments about 1. A million times a second... etc Were from about 30 years ago, before optimization improved. I know that the "hot" instruction for MQ on z/OS that showed up in profiling, was the Load/Update Address of the next free slot in the trace buffer in ECSA. When there were many

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Charles Mills
App received HOW NOW, BROWN COW Quoting the command preserves the lower case, even with the embedded blanks. (No, I did not test every permutation.) /F procname,'How now, Brown Cow' App received 'How now, Brown Cow' Note that the quotes are included in what the app receives. JCL

ISFDELAY

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
ISFDELAY specifies the response delay limit for system commands. Specify ISFDELAY="timeout-value", where timeout-value specifies the default timeout value (in seconds) for which SDSF will wait for message responses to the slash / command. The timeout value must be in the range of

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 09:12:45 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >The problem is that there just is no generic MODIFY format, and I guess there >really is no universal console command format. Yes, yes, the next time they >write MVS they should do a single parser shared among all commands, but

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-11 Thread Charles Mills
+1 And when new hardware comes out, taking advantage of the new architecture is a simple matter of updating ARCH() in your C/C++ compile and re-building. You probably don't have the appetite to re-work your carefully hand-tuned assembler. I know whereof I speak. I wrote a commercial product in

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Charles Mills
The problem is that there just is no generic MODIFY format, and I guess there really is no universal console command format. Yes, yes, the next time they write MVS they should do a single parser shared among all commands, but unfortunately they did not do it for this MVS. For MODIFY, the

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 11:52:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >ObNit Why don't you want to quoute the stem name? The statement address SDSF >"ISFSLASH (mycmd.) (WAIT)" will work regardless of whether you give mycomd. a >default value. > The flaw occurs in the User's Guide. RCF submitted.

DUMPs protection question

2022-07-11 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Hi! I have a question regarding IEAABD.DMPAUTH / IEAABD.DMPAKEY resources in RACF FACILITY class: 1- In this context, when the RACF "Security Administrator Guide" says "controlled programs", is it referring to programs protected in RACF PROGRAM class? 2- It is not completely

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Phil, That is odd that there isn't more written about sibling pend. IDK if solid state disk suffers to the same extent as spinning spindles but I would guess not. Short description is that typical disk array configuration was to take the disks and carve them up into a bunch of smaller

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 13:42:07 +, Peter Relson wrote: >Shmuel write >> A space in an operator command is the separator between operand and comment. > >"Can be", not "is". It depends on the command. > Is this clearly documented for each command? Does the doc cover the case of passing a string

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Jack Zukt
That is what I am betting on. Something is being done by DB2 or SORT that keeps the "TAPE ON" message from showing for such a long time. I was hoping for someone that had experienced this situation before. Jack On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 15:00, Jack Zukt wrote: > Yes, they are all VTS drives > And

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Jack Zukt
Yes, they are all VTS drives And there are no IEF455D pending messages for the duration of the. And multiple jobs usinf PRIVAT tapes were executed while this one had this behavior. Which occurred on all the various runs from the first one, until and including the last ones (which was successful,

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I wonder if this is a deferred mount? without knowing what DB2 job is running it maybe doing some processing on DASD, then writing to tape? Carmen On 7/11/2022 8:46 AM, Clifford McNeill wrote: The IEF455D msg is probably in the syslog not the joblog.  I think it might be the key.  I see tape

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Clifford McNeill
The IEF455D msg is probably in the syslog not the joblog.  I think it might be the key.  I see tape mounts on device 7070 and later on 3671.   Are they both VTS drives? On 7/11/2022 8:34 AM, Jack Zukt wrote: Not likely This is the relevant JOB LOG J E S 2 J O B L O

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Peter Relson
Shmuel write > A space in an operator command is the separator between operand and comment. "Can be", not "is". It depends on the command. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I see the joblog, was there any other messages on the syslog around that time, for DB2 archive offload I usually see MOUNT TAPE on or REPLY. Carmen On 7/11/2022 8:23 AM, Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, Last night we had a weird situation that prompted the operations people to contact one

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Jack Zukt
Not likely This is the relevant JOB LOG J E S 2 J O B L O G -- S Y S T E M S Y A 1 -- N O D E P R D 1 05.34.24 J1234567 SUNDAY,10 JUL 2022 05.34.24 J1234567 IRR010I USERID OPCDB2P IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 05.34.24 J1234567 ICH70001I OPCDB2P

Re: Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Clifford McNeill
Did you run out of tape drives?  Can you show the IEF455D msg? On 7/11/2022 8:23 AM, Jack Zukt wrote: RESPOND TO IEF455D MESSAGE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Weird TAPE MOUNT behavior

2022-07-11 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi all, Last night we had a weird situation that prompted the operations people to contact one of our standby teams. A DB2 job started running and requested a PRIVAT tape: 05.34.24 J1234567 IEF403I DB2PRJ1O - STARTED - TIME=05.34.24 05.34.30 J1234567 IEF233D M

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:29:15 +, Rob Scott wrote: >True - however I think the original author of the exec was alternating between >using the stem form and a variable replacement form. > How does it behave with SIGNAL ON NOVALUE in effect? How does it behave with MYCMD.='Preseet' in effect?

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Rob Scott
True - however I think the original author of the exec was alternating between using the stem form and a variable replacement form. For my sins, this was cut+paste from a REXX PDS that we have for unit testing. Rob From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: 11 July

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObNit Why don't you want to quoute the stem name? The statement address SDSF "ISFSLASH (mycmd.) (WAIT)" will work regardless of whether you give mycomd. a default value. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-11 Thread David Crayford
On 10/07/2022 6:49 pm, Rony wrote: Am 09.07.2022 um 03:15 schrieb David Crayford : On 8/07/2022 7:17 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote: On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... cut ... There is one

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-11 Thread Rob Scott
For what it is worth, SDSF REXX API already accepts an alternate form of input for the ISFSLASH verb where you can pass the name of a stem variable that holds one or more z/OS operator commands. For example : /* REXX */ x=ISFCALLS("ON") ISFDELAY = 3 mycmd.0 = 2 mycmd.1 = "D A,L" mycmd.2 =