Re: ISPF macro/script

2023-02-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I think there's a misunderstanding about "selecting" the member. If I read Radek correctly, the program is to pick out a name that does ~not~ refer to an already existing member, and use that for the output. That's not hard; the member name will be "" where is a constant, is today's date an

Sv: ISPF macro/script

2023-02-06 Thread Lars Höglund
Or something like this /* REXX*/ /*%COPYRIGHT (c) copyright LHKAB */ /* */ /* REXXNAME : MACONALL System : ISPF

Sv: ISPF macro/script

2023-02-06 Thread Lars Höglund
Look at Marc Zelden's EDMACALL //Lasse -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List För Hobart Spitz Skickat: den 7 februari 2023 03:19 Till: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: ISPF macro/script You have these options: 1 - Select the member manually, and invoke your REXX

Re: ISPF macro/script

2023-02-06 Thread Hobart Spitz
You have these options: 1 - Select the member manually, and invoke your REXX edit macro. 2 - Write another module the invokes the edit service in the library and member, and runs the edit macro. 3 - Write one dual mode module. I do not recommend this. Edit commands are only valid in REXX EXECs th

ISPF macro/script

2023-02-06 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
To be honest ISPF & REXX is not my strong point. I need the following: From PDS(E) member list I type my CMD1, hit ENTER - to start the REXX script. The script Select new member (name generated from date+consecutive character), then issue some edit commands, like COPY TEMPLATE to copy some tex

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, now that we've devolved to swapping histories: I first used a keypunch when I was four, in 1965. My dad rented one and had it installed in the house because he was working on a concordance program. His first project was Beowulf, and he needed the text to be input, which my mother volunteere

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm sure I've posted this before, but since you bring it up... --- Jack was a COBOL programmer in the late 1990s who (after years of being treated as a technological dinosaur by all the UNIX programmers, Client/Server programmers, website developers etc) was finally getting some respect: He'd

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I haven't written in COBOL since some time in the 1980s. That's not counting a short ciphering routine I wrote coming up on Y2K, and a lot of ~reading~ COBOL programs for a client in 2012. But I keep hearing that COBOL is keeping up with the times, and I'm sort of curious. What's been added?

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Steve Thompson
I can hold my silence no longer. FORTRAN in HS, Intro in college was FORTRAN, then 2 semesters of ALC (S/360 DOS) and 1 of RPG|RPGII. Taught myself COBOL well enough that in 2 weeks I could work on it and do macro level CICS (CICS 1.1.1 -- LONG before CICS/TS for you folk in CICS dev/support

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
It's been a long time since I keypunched. Never had to for work. I was going to write S370, but as I seemingly often do, I held the shift and did S#&) Digressing from my statement that COBOL was not hard to learn. And as has been also stated, modern Cobol is capable of many things that used to

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 21:11:34 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >370 assembler . Sticky shift finger > Keypunch? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
370 assembler . Sticky shift finger > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: I want to cry > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > COBOL was almost trivial to learn, af

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
COBOL was almost trivial to learn, after a semester of #&) Assemble out of Struble. But, I guess by then it was at least my 4th or 5th language. I came up from application programming, then supporting a few (CA) products to sysprog about the time of ESA -

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
I started out in assembler, but I worked with operators who later became programmers and systems programmers. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of william janulin <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@lists

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
For the state of Oregon DMV, I wrote a set of pure CICS Cobol programs that implemented a TCPIP client and server for interaction with the states law enforcement windows based message switching system. It provided photos and text data to Cop cars and other devices … Cobol was chosen because C

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
They had a bad COBOL instructor! We were writing our first program in the first 2 weeks of my first COBOL course. We didn't understand all the details of the FILE DIVISION et al at that point, but we were at least learning the language and applying it. Rex -Original Message- From: IB

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Oregon State was using a pseudo language system to teach ... not a mainstream language. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Missing Values For The 'SDSF DA' Panels - z/OS 2.5

2023-02-06 Thread Michael Babcock
Rob, we didn’t have DADFLT coded for our group in ISFPRMxx member. It still worked under 2.4 so that hole must have been closed with 2.5. Oddly enough, our test LPAR for the SYSPROG group was the only group DADFLT wasn’t coded on. It was coded on all other groups and all other LPARs. Thanks!

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I hesitate at this first line, Paul. I can't tell its context (because you deleted the post you're responding to, ahem!), but I'm remembering how I got into programming when I first encountered it: Professor, on the VERY FIRST DAY of class: So if you're writing a program to compare two numbers

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Spend a year reading customers dumps on paper upside down ... Most were S0C7 ... what do you do when the debuggers are broken? Yes, you have to understand the machine instructions, but not every one of them ... -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Tom Marchant
It is very difficult to debug an abend in a Cobol program unless you can at least read the generated assembler. Of course, these days, there are programs that will do it for you. -- Tom Marchant On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:27:57 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Ok, so exactly why is that a problem? > >

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Absolutely! I fall into the last category now :( - went to tech school for data processing, RPG and RPG II some COBOL in the 70's went for my fist job with Chilton Research for a programmers position, I ended up being one of those folks you don't want to get a call from. I left there and was ab

Re: Missing Values For The 'SDSF DA' Panels - z/OS 2.5

2023-02-06 Thread Rob Scott
Please check the DADFLT() keyword on the SDSF GROUP statement. This dictates the default address space types returned when the user omits any parameters on the DA command. If the SDSF group omits the DADFLT keyword, it defaults to NONE. I believe there are historical reasons for this behaviour

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread william janulin
Good points. A lot of us started off in operations first then went on to application development. Eventually, some of us moved over to systems programming. Then.later the silos were created for operating systems maintenance, networking, and database.  Today circling back, all those roles were me

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Absolutely! They should be taught how to program and debug first, then the constructs of individual languages. Many of us have programed on all sorts of machines from the IBM mainframe, to the IBM PC, 8080s, z80s, Univac 1050-II, Xeon, Arm, etc. and different languages from all the of differen

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Michael Watkins
I'd guess there is no one that receives these emails who has an interest in every topic discussed, whether those topics are in technical threads or more the more 'off-topic' threads. If a thread does not interest me, I simply ignore it. I find that works for me, whether the thread is technical

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Bingo. There are more people here who never help versus those that do. Also, there are far more mainframe people who aren’t even subscribed to IBM-MAIN than are subscribed. I have rarely needed assistance but when I did, I RTFM, or went directly to IBM or IBMers. Sent direct emails to Mr. Thomen

Re: Missing Values For The 'SDSF DA' Panels - z/OS 2.5

2023-02-06 Thread Michael Babcock
Rob. We applied all available SDSF maintenance to our 2.5 system. We’ve found that DA ALL works. Has something changed with respect to the DA command/panel not defaulting to ALL? On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 2:55 AM Rob Scott wrote: > Ross, > > First of all, I am glad you have opened a support ca

Please let's keep things professional and technical

2023-02-06 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Can everyone please take a deep breath and remember that we are all here to help others on their mainframe journey. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputati

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's a bit more complicated. While there ma be people who never help and people who always help, there are also people whose response depends on how busy they are at the time and who is requesting assistance. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Your analysis is incorrect. I’m highly technical. But, my expertise is varied. I’m a jack of all trades. Programming, DASD management, DBA, MQ, z/OS, lots of third party software, Security, etc. Why do I need to add my cents when there are plenty of know it alls with no actual work to do other t

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Tom Brennan
"IT was just the means to an end" Ah, that explains why I can't remember you ever helping someone here with a technical issue. Pretty-much anyone I've ever worked with who got into this business *only* because they saw money, was generally less-technical and often ended up in management. The

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Me too. People who post non-stop, every day, all day, obviously have no life outside of IBM-MAIN. Whereas, I rarely post because I’m doing a ton of traveling. But, that’s been true throughout my IT career. Whether it was my travels to NY to be on the MILLIONAIRE show, my $10,000 reward for helpi

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Hobart Spitz
Just taking a guess here: Most ISPF services run at the same task level as the invoking user program. I believe that EDIT (and View) run at a different task level, and therefore may not have access to the same parameter pointers. OREXXMan Q: What do you call the residence of the ungulate with t

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Steve Smith
I do feel sorry for those of you who evidently have no social life whatsoever outside of IBM-MAIN. But most of us would be very gratified if you'd STFU about off-topics. You're polluting the forum and wasting our time. sas -- Fo

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IFASMFDP

2023-02-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ah crap - i should have verified sorry steve On 2/6/2023 10:46 AM, Horne, Jim wrote: No, program IFASMFDL is needed for logstream processing. Jim Horne -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 11:43 AM To: IBM-M

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IFASMFDP

2023-02-06 Thread Horne, Jim
No, program IFASMFDL is needed for logstream processing. Jim Horne -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IFASMFDP *EXTERNAL SENDER* yes, SMF logstr

Re: IFASMFDP

2023-02-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
yes, SMF logstreams Carmen On 2/6/2023 10:33 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: Good Morning folks, My question is an IFASMPDP process Logger files? Regards, Steve Beaver -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
ISPQRY fails if it is not in LPA, linklist or tasklib, So you don't require that it work also in System REXX? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023

IFASMFDP

2023-02-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Good Morning folks, My question is an IFASMPDP process Logger files? Regards, Steve Beaver -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the me

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 15:29:01 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It follows TSO command conventions, so in that sense it is a TSO command, but >it is in an ISPF library. > So 'ADDRESS TSO "ISPQRY"' fails if ISPF libraries are not allocated? Did you mean trimodal? By "bimodal" I meant ISPF vs. non-IS

Re: Searching the ASVT

2023-02-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/5/2023 9:14 AM, Joe Monk wrote: I always find it fascinating when someone tries to explain to the IBM z/OS designers how z/OS works... Not sure I follow what you're trying to say with this snarky-sounding comment, particularly since Michael Stein's explanation was correct... -- Phoenix

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
It follows TSO command conventions, so in that sense it is a TSO command, but it is in an ISPF library. Did you mean trimodal? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday,

Re: Searching the ASVT

2023-02-06 Thread Peter Relson
> ASVTENTY is the address of the entry for ASID 0 (which, of course, is never > used). Apologies. That's wrong. ASVTENTY is, as others have posted, the entry for ASID 1. ASVTFRST locates an entry that is available for use for a new address space. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Mohammad Khan
At least they listened to the esteemed professor with respect to teaching it ... and it looks like he didn't say anything about coding in it :) MKK On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 19:42:12 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >Well, Dijkstra [in]famously said “The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its >teaching should,

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
lol bully? The opposite.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, February 6, 2023, 9:53 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: checking my trash folder, the best place to find your responses, my question to " I didn’t start the off topic discussion but I’m not going to let bullsh*t go unchallenged

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Or use sysvar('sysispf') - either ACTIVE or NOT ACTIVE. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden

Re: Having a little difficulty with a REXX command LMOPEN

2023-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 04:48:09 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I would probably use ISPQRY, but your usage is shorter. > But does that require TSO? I wanted to be TSO-independent: z/OS 2.5 ISPF Services Guide IBM SC19-3626-50 Under TSO/E REXX that uses ADDRESS TSO you can use: "ISPQRY"

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
checking my trash folder, the best place to find your responses, my question to " I didn’t start the off topic discussion but I’m not going to let bullsh*t go unchallenged." *is WHY? * why do you feel you HAVE TO? bully? who cares go back to your political forum where you can bully people there

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
I didn’t start the off topic discussion but I’m not going to let bullsh*t go unchallenged. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, February 6, 2023, 9:35 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: It is time to remember that this is a technical forum. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
The US is 50th in infant mortality. Hardly great health care.  The mortality rate in the United States was 5.44 in 2020. This rate was 50th among the 195 countries and territories measured, and significantly higher than in dozens of other developed countries such as Sweden (2.15), Japan (1.82),

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
It is time to remember that this is a technical forum. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Bill Johnson
The World Health Organization rates the US health care system 37th in the world. France is rated number 1. The US health care system isn’t even close to being better than most. And those social democratic countries get better health care for half the costs. I’m also all for higher taxes on corpo

Re: I want to cry

2023-02-06 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Social democratic countries have *MUCH* higher tax rates. Somebody has to pay for all of those services. Social democratic countries have generally poorer medical care Everything has its pros and cons. You pays your money and takes your choice. -Original Message

Re: Virtual tape usage

2023-02-06 Thread Joe Monk
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=dfsms-zos-dfsmsrmm-reporting https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=generator-sample-report-definitions Joe On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 10:15 PM Jake Anderson wrote: > We use DFRMM. Is there any specific reporting batch that I can rely on ? > > On Mo

Download zowe

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