Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-07 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
To be honest I consider date-related variables as pooor when compared to batch scheduler features, especially ControlM (it is not advertisement, just opinion). Justification: More possibilities of when the date should be resolved. For example it can be "accounting date" - job should

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter
I’ll admit I have NOT used symbol substitution in the “name” part (left of the “=”) at all, only on the right (value) side, so the true answer is “I don’t know”. Never had a reason to use substitution in the “name” part. I personally haven’t had reason to use dynamic system symbols that could

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-07 Thread Michael Oujesky
Dynamic symbols (date/time) can be evaluated at different points in time during conversion, so if used multiple time in the JCL, they can resolve to different values. My ROT was to never use a dynamic symbol more that once in coding and where it was needed multiple time, set it to my own

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 09:41:56 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 9/20/2023 8:23 AM, Farley, Peter wrote: >> ... JCL symbols as part of the definition of other JCL symbols works >> flawlessly every time. > Is this true alike for substitution both in the name (left of the "=") and in the value (right of

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-07 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/20/2023 8:23 AM, Farley, Peter wrote: I believe that statement in the JCL Reference is in error and needs to be deleted or at the very least completely rewritten. My quite substantial experience using this technique over the last 10-15 years is that using JCL symbols as part of the

Re: IPCS: Can ADPLSACC Service code access 64 bit storage

2023-10-07 Thread Peter Relson
I think that a better subject/question (accompanying that with information about what you tried) would have been: In IPCS, how do you access 64-bit storage? I tried using ADPLSACC and that didn't seem to work with the options that I used which were Some code I have seen uses BLSRESSY with