Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Brian Westerman
In fact, it works VERY well. I don't mind the dos boxes opening and closing, they are REALLY fast and if there wern't so many of them you probably would not notice that anything happened. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / a

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Brian Westerman
Possibly what they want to do is be able to create or change the symbolic after the job has started. Isn't there a program interface to generating symbols? Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan
No thanks, I'll just stick with what I have since it works already. On 10/18/2023 8:27 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up, then change the shortcut to run minimized. Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlin

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:18:33 +, Allan Staller wrote: >Agreed, however it seems the OP is operating in a "toggle-plex" i.e. either >LPAR A is running or LPARB is running. In this case, the DVIPA would be >deactivated on one of the LPARS and switched manually via the V TCPIP command >to acti

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up, then change the shortcut to run minimized. Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlinks to each of the manuals without path. Save the word document as a PDF in the same directory as the manuals. O

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:50:21 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >When TCPIP on z/OS allocates a IP address that address is registered in the >OSA > so that the OSA has a list of every IP address that is open and which LPAR it > is opened on. This tells us that in addition to SNA, the OSA i

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:31:11 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >Write a program that outputs a JOB with the desired JCL and variables. >Some automation programs can modify JCL in a library when it submits >it. There are many problems with this solution because we are making assumptions about the proble

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan
In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create. That would scare people I think. I'm not interested in messing with somebody's environment variables. That would scare people too I think. Yes there's a reason not to rename: The manuals have internal links to each other wh

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:15 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Can windows shortcuts use relative paths? > >Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10: Symlinks (hard or soft) is an alternative to using shortcuts. Environment variables are allowed in

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Write a program that outputs a JOB with the desired JCL and variables. Some automation programs can modify JCL in a library when it submits it. On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 4:19 PM Charles Hardee wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks in advance for anyone that can shed light on the subject. > > Is there a

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:18:05 -0500, Charles Hardee wrote: >Is there a mechanism for setting a JCL type variable from within a program? > >In other words, I would like to do this: > >// SET XYZ='ABC and DEF' > >from within a program. You're asking for a solution to a problem that we don't unders

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 22:53:05 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: >On the other hand they can be passed to another job via the internal reader >specified with the SYMBOLS parameter. >For example, >//INTRDR DD *,SYMLIST=* >It could make sense in this instance. > ITYM: // EXPORT SYMLIST=

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
On the other hand they can be passed to another job via the internal reader specified with the SYMBOLS parameter. For example, //INTRDR DD *,SYMLIST=* It could make sense in this instance. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbolsragg

2023-10-18 Thread Joe Monk
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 16:28 Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:18: 05 -0500, Charles Hardee wrote: > > > >Thanks in advance for anyone that can shed light on the subject. > > > >Is there a umechanism for setting a JCL type variable fr

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Michael Oujesky
Why would you want/need to do this? Michael At 04:18 PM 10/18/2023, Charles Hardee wrote: Hello All, Thanks in advance for anyone that can shed light on the subject. Is there a mechanism for setting a JCL type variable from within a program? In other words, I would like to do this: // SET

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:18:05 -0500, Charles Hardee wrote: > >Thanks in advance for anyone that can shed light on the subject. > >Is there a mechanism for setting a JCL type variable from within a program? > I hope you can't. JCL symbols are elaborated by the Converter, before a program executes.

Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Charles Hardee
Hello All, Thanks in advance for anyone that can shed light on the subject. Is there a mechanism for setting a JCL type variable from within a program? In other words, I would like to do this: // SET XYZ='ABC and DEF' from within a program. Again, thanks for anyone that can shed light on this

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:15:55 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Tom, > >For the “relative” idea, maybe fill in the “Start In” value in the *.lnk file >with the “current” (pwd) directory name? Not sure if that would make any >difference, but it may be worth a try. > Are you using Tom's shortcuts or Tm

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Everyone that I've seen has a forms code on the front cover. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.e

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Farley, Peter
Tom, For the “relative” idea, maybe fill in the “Start In” value in the *.lnk file with the “current” (pwd) directory name? Not sure if that would make any difference, but it may be worth a try. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Wednesday, October 18,

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan
On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Can windows shortcuts use relative paths? Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10: Currently my VBS script creates links like this depending on what directory you are in when you run the script (pwd): https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortc

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:53:48 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >...I wish that IBM would include not only the exact title in PDF metadata but >also the forms code. > Are the metadata extensible? In one 3.1 publication I see: Custom Metadata: no But suppose the document is rendered before a forms

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Agreed, however it seems the OP is operating in a "toggle-plex" i.e. either LPAR A is running or LPARB is running. In this case, the DVIPA would be deactivated on one of the LPARS and switched manually via the V TCPIP command to activate/deactivate the DVIPA on LPAR

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
It turns out that the setting is locked to download. Given that, I'll look at constructing shortcuts. Can windows shortcuts use relative paths? I wish that IBM would include not only the exact title in PDF metadata but also the forms code. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~sme

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
I'll try to explain this as best as I can, but this can get confusing and this is based on my understanding. We do have DB2 setup in Data Sharing and configured using SYSPLEX distributor, which some of the configuration is similar. When TCPIP on z/OS allocates a IP address that address is

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:17:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message to the >effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can just use >Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use >approve

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Yeh. I was waiting for someone else to give it a try. >> From: Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw >> >> Great analysis. >> Just tried F,INIT,XYZ and I got 10 messages. Guess how many INITs I am >> running? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signo

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Great analysis. Just tried F,INIT,XYZ and I got 10 messages. Guess how many INITs I am running? Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: 18 October 2023 11:41 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY -

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Rob, WOW! >> When the modify command comes in, the CSCB chain is run and ANY match on the >> PROCNAME or ID (CHPROCSN and CHKEY for STC) triggers the logic to attempt to >> add the CIB to that address space queue PROC has same name as an active TSO user. When I rename the PROC, the problem is

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Rob Scott
Here is what I suspect is happening - note that I don't have access to the z/OS BCP code - so some of this is semi-educated guess : (o) CONSOLE operator command processing is fairly simple and its main purpose here is to add a CIB to the appropriate queue for the responding address space (o) IE

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Hi Rob, Q1 : Is the jobname unique on the system? A1 : Yes. BTW, STC, not JOB. Q2 : What happens when you start the address space using "S PROCNAME.MYID" and then issue "F MYID,command" ? A2 : with MYID, all's normal - no message IEE342I issued. Shut it down, restarted without ID and the prob

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Rob Scott
Q1 : Is the jobname unique on the system? Q2 : What happens when you start the address space using "S PROCNAME.MYID" and then issue "F MYID,command" ? Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. Sent: Wedne

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
No z/OS Unix Services used. Good ol' fashioned MVS assembler program. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY - yet modify command is immediately processed

2023-10-18 Thread Rob Scott
Does this program use z/OS Unix services to spawn child processes to handle modify commands? There can be issues with IEE342I being issued when base jobname is 8 chars long and a different jobname cannot be formed by appending an extra character. Rob Scott Rocket Software Sent from Samsung M