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Re: John's spare time ... Job Scheduler Programmer Architect?

2017-06-06 Thread Vince Coen
Looking on your website I cannot see downloads for other than z/OS or Windows. Where is the one for Linux and does it work within the Linux platform for job scheduling ? On 06/06/17 13:20, Clem Clarke wrote: Tim, You might like to look at Jol's Networking Facility. Jol is an English

Re: Old hardware

2017-04-18 Thread Vince Coen
As far as I remember he is not running a modern OS let alone z/OS unless his new employer has given him a free license. Assuming he can now afford to have the 890 running. Did look at getting one myself but cannot afford the power running costs - well not at 0.11p per Kw. Vince On

Re: CPU Timerons/Seconds vs Wall-clock Time

2017-04-09 Thread Vince Coen
but life is too short. All counts at least for accountants :) But there again I am (was) not... Vincent On 09/04/17 19:10, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: vbc...@gmail.com (Vince Coen) writes: A M/F may not break down CPU time between system and the application depending on O/S

Re: CPU Timerons/Seconds vs Wall-clock Time

2017-04-09 Thread Vince Coen
If you take a look at the logs for the job you will see the start, end and lapsed time along with the CPU time for all steps run. Elapsed time will ALWAYS be longer than CPU time. Why? 1. System is multi tasking so runs many jobs at the same time depending on capabilities. 2. Overheads for

Re: CPU Timerons/Seconds vs Wall-clock Time

2017-04-09 Thread Vince Coen
Yes providing you are only running app on one cpu .e., not multi threading etc. On 09/04/17 16:48, Lindy Mayfield wrote: This may or may not be the dumbest question I've asked this week, but I've been working with Linux a lot lately so that's my excuse. For example, if an MVS job ran and

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-06 Thread Vince Coen
Taken from the Technical Manual for PRECIS :- --- Timely access to detailed climate change scenarios is particularly vital in developing countries, where economic stresses are likely to increase vulnerability to potentially damaging impacts of climate change. In order to help address this

Re: Fujitsu Mainframe Vs IBM mainframe

2017-02-24 Thread Vince Coen
Small correct for the info below : The operating System George (1, 2, 3 & 4) run on ICL 1900 series, 2903 & 4 ( as George 2 & 3). G1 was the original and was replaced with G2 - just as well as a bit of a dog but better than in native mode. George 4 was for very big installations and was

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-13 Thread Vince Coen
Paper tape was there you just did not see it unless you was an operator. If no where else it was on the printers for channel control. This admittedly was wider than the normal 8 channel tape for many of the newer printers. Tape was used for very small updates (well at least by me) to a

Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

2017-01-13 Thread Vince Coen
Under *nix you set an environment variable in the bash (or what ever one you use) script This points to the directory path containing the copy libs and that directory path is mapped to the syslib you need. I am not an expert on z/OS but assuming you can do the last then the rest is easy. I

Re: The Creator of the Universe is Roaring. SUDO XE: let there be light in David's root and Oracle

2016-12-23 Thread Vince Coen
Usually do but was in the 'mood' ! Get that way sometimes :) On 23/12/16 18:40, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Messages like this are annoying, but if you look at the thread, more noise has been generated by Lister complaints than by the wacko himself. Best if we all just delete the offending

Re: The Creator of the Universe is Roaring. SUDO XE: let there be light in David's root and Oracle

2016-12-23 Thread Vince Coen
Ah, sorry did not know that. S**t I am showing my age :) On 23/12/16 17:51, Jack J. Woehr wrote: Vince Coen wrote: We do NOT wish to read about off topic items and your faith is NOT, repeat NOT one of them! It's not a person, it's a bot. This is an automated attack on the list

Re: The Creator of the Universe is Roaring. SUDO XE: let there be light in David's root and Oracle

2016-12-23 Thread Vince Coen
Which part of this mail area which is for IBM mainframe topics don't you understand? We do NOT wish to read about off topic items and your faith is NOT, repeat NOT one of them! On 23/12/16 15:35, Adam Kadmon wrote: Blind? That's Exodus in reverse, and it's the most iconic phrase God has

Re: IBM Java 8 SR2

2016-11-23 Thread Vince Coen
Are not the service pack cumulative ? E.g., SP3 has SP2 within. On 23/11/16 16:24, Veerendra H wrote: Hi, I am looking for help in finding a website/location from where i can download IBM Java version 8 SR2, I went to the below website and can find SR3 but not SR2

Re: TV news just now

2016-10-28 Thread Vince Coen
Does he work in mainframes ? Still it could have been worse :) On 29/10/16 00:47, Tom Brennan wrote: News channels here in Los Angeles sometimes use a certain expert to comment on airplane accidents, and he always catches my attention because his name is Les Abend.

Re: UK GSE Mainframe Skills & Learning Group

2016-10-04 Thread Vince Coen
The last time I had any involvement with degree courses they tended to be more academic in nature than real world business applications. That caused me to create a learning program that trained the usage of programming languages we used in the commercial area as well as usage of method not

Re: 2FA in the Real World

2016-09-13 Thread Vince Coen
Quest. Seem to recall some other m/f products as well. Toad ? Vince On 13/09/16 18:31, Steve wrote: > NC-Pass was purchased some time ago by Dell, and I don't remember who wrote > itt > > > Steve > -Original Message----- > From: "Vince Coen" <

Re: 2FA in the Real World

2016-09-13 Thread Vince Coen
For me the problem is that it is a Dell product. Previous experience with them just leave a bitter taste in the mouth and one I have no intention of repeating. Vincent On 13/09/16 17:49, Steve wrote: > Is anyone in the real not government world using this product? > > [

Re: OSA set up for Madrid

2016-04-28 Thread Vince Coen
Nope, but it was interesting to see Barclays Bank IT info in the public domain ! Boring as it was :) On 28/04/16 10:52, Andrew Metcalfe wrote: > Fat finger trouble - please disregard. > Does anyone know how to remove a post? > Andrew > >

Re: Another one bites the dust

2016-04-01 Thread Vince Coen
, Mike Shorkend wrote: > If I remember correctly, it was a smallish BC(z9 I think). I will try and > find out what they intend to do with it. > On Apr 1, 2016 6:47 PM, "Vince Coen" <vbc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is it and how much will they take to take it off

Re: Another one bites the dust

2016-04-01 Thread Vince Coen
What is it and how much will they take to take it off their hands ? On 01/04/16 15:45, Mike Shorkend wrote: > The Israeli Stock Exchange announced that they have switched off their > mainframe. They were running Adabas and Natural on VM/VSE and have > migrated to Linux on HPE servers(with

Re: Linux

2016-03-29 Thread Vince Coen
Posix comparability is in most of Linux and Unix code these days - and has been for many years. On 29/03/16 17:49, Charles Mills wrote: > >From the z/OS UNIX manuals: > > "InterOpen Shell and Utilities is a source code product providing POSIX.2 > (Shell > and Utilities) functions to the z/OS

Re: bootstrapping the GZIP for z/OS install

2016-03-02 Thread Vince Coen
Just of of completeness you can call the program direct if you have not yet set up the paths by running : > /bin/gzip -V[ etc ] That said the bin directory should already be in the search paths so check it via echo $PATH If not add it to your profile (or for all users if wanted). . Vince

Re: Tritus SPF

2016-02-22 Thread Vince Coen
I am in the U.K. and have a portable 3.5" floppy drive (uses a USB port) so can transfer them to a CD, ISO file etc as needed and no I do not have a need for the s/w ! Vince On 22/02/16 16:56, Ken Hume wrote: > 3.5 > > On 2/22/2016 9:12 AM, Richard Pinion wrote: >> 3.5 or 5.25? >> >> >> >> ---

Re: On sort options orignally: zfs question root growth

2016-02-19 Thread Vince Coen
h. > Have you done this successfully from source? > > > > >> On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Vince Coen <vbc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you install the GCC development system e.g.,C along with the >> libraries you can then download the sources for these ut

Re: On sort options orignally: zfs question root growth

2016-02-19 Thread Vince Coen
If you install the GCC development system e.g.,C along with the libraries you can then download the sources for these utilities and compile them and install them into a common path. Easy .. compiler On 19/02/16 18:13, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On 2016-02-19, at 10:14, Bigendian Smalls wrote: >> I

Re: Anyone seen Mr. Gilmore?

2016-02-03 Thread Vince Coen
If he was / is living in Israel then he left his job and was looking for another and posted in here to see if anyone knew of any vacs. That was a few months back. Vince On 03/02/16 20:36, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Mike Schwab wrote: > >>

Re: Where is SET allowed in JCL?

2015-12-23 Thread Vince Coen
Still waiting for a reply on my requesting the sources from some 2+ months ago. Vince On 23/12/15 23:54, Clem Clarke wrote: > Gil, if you hate JCL, why not look at Jol? With simple English like > syntax. > > It does more than JCL, run in backgound/batch or you can execute jobs > under TSO. > >

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Vince Coen
Have you looked at Gnu Cobol (formally known as Open Cobol) v2 compiler? https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-cobol/ Converting the CICS code is another issue. On 17/12/15 14:23, John McKown wrote: > Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both > COBOL and CICS.

Re: IBM z Systems Development Blog

2015-12-04 Thread Vince Coen
The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation - UK) does *NOT* run any lottery. There are more than one (and a bit) different lotteries licensed in the UK and no I do not subscribe to any. The odds as you point out are horrendous. Originally it was bad enough with 6 numbers at odds of 14.5M : 1

Re: More ex-employer "harassment"?

2015-11-30 Thread Vince Coen
Must be for American based contracts although (with IBM) never saw such a thing. Would have rejected it (or crossed such clauses out) before starting and yes I did work for governments including the UK and US and also never saw such a condition. As for law well at least for the UK but I suspect

Re: More ex-employer "harassment"?

2015-11-30 Thread Vince Coen
Yep, that exactly what I did and to any other clauses I didn't like the look of. The ambiguous ones were the first to go :) On 30/11/15 21:44, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <565c8a19.70...@gmail.com>, on 11/30/2015 >at 05:40 PM, Vince Coen <vbc...@gmail.com> sai

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Vince Coen
UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of transaction. Procedure for online transactions only needs the CCV code (on back of card in signature strip) to be passed along with the card no (16 digits), expiry date, name on card, verification of address on card is used for

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Vince Coen
Best method for paying online I have found is using Paypal. On 22/11/15 17:57, Charles Mills wrote: It is all about managing perception, and people's perception is that online is riskier. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-27 Thread Vince Coen
for an outage! - -teD - Original Message From: Vince Coen Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 07:11 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion? I would have thought that all these issues would have been easy

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-27 Thread Vince Coen
I would have thought that all these issues would have been easy to be resolved if all sites used UTC time on hardware level with the adjustment for local set up at the software level then it only requires simple job step to adjust if there is not one built in to the O/S. Also and if needed

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-27 Thread Vince Coen
k up systems run in parallel along with a m/f used for testing and development. Sorry my age is showing ... .On 27/10/15 15:14, Ted MacNEIL wrote: How about internationally? Not all companies close on weekends! - -teD - Original Message From: Vince Coen Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 08:54 To:

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-27 Thread Vince Coen
who has said "deal with it or we will find a service bureau that can." With regard to 3, what can I say. Fair enough summary? CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity Original message From: Vince Coen <vbc...@gmail.com> Date: 10/27/2015 5:54 AM (GM

Re: Error? COBOL level number "mistake" accepted by IBM compiler

2015-09-29 Thread Vince Coen
as Mageia v4 X64 and can send you (or make it available on my website for your to download) the zip'd archive for you to have a play with. Let me know what option. Vince On 29/09/15 12:55, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Vince Coen <vbc...@gmail.com> wrote: OK, the on

Re: Error? COBOL level number "mistake" accepted by IBM compiler

2015-09-29 Thread Vince Coen
ranch that tends not to have all the bleeding edge code added but some users like to have them. Try the nightly build first as that also seems to be stable. Vince On 29/09/15 12:55, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Vince Coen <vbc...@gmail.com> wrote: OK, th

Re: Error? COBOL level number "mistake" accepted by IBM compiler

2015-09-28 Thread Vince Coen
Can you give us a clue as to what version of GC you are using? Vince On 28/09/15 20:11, John McKown wrote: OK, just for "fun", I have downloaded a lot of the company's COBOL source to my Linux workstation. I am compiling it with GNU COBOL. The results are amazing clean. Well, that is, not

Re: Error? COBOL level number "mistake" accepted by IBM compiler

2015-09-28 Thread Vince Coen
-- If you would like to post the entire code fragment that can be input into the compiler I will see what happens as I can't say, as I do not break levels in that way (as far as I know) that is :) Vince . On 28/09/15 21:37, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Vince Coen <vbc

Re: Setting the writers right

2015-09-27 Thread Vince Coen
Well that is what we call in the UK a load of BS. Cobol or for that matter any programming language used for applications has no bearing on the security of any system or systems. Much more is the security procedures in place of any system that is exposed to the internet directly or

Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-09-27 Thread Vince Coen
I think the stats on migration failures show that many fail regardless of the target migration mainly is that they over estimate project time, and quality of the target systems being used in place of m/f. Taking a straight view the mainframe is slow compared to running on servers on a

Re: cobol sequential write problem

2015-09-04 Thread Vince Coen
Noticed two thing but not sure how important: 1. You are opening two file but only one is present in the program but should have produced an error!. 2. Moving spaces to 01 record and depending on your settings JCL wise it "might" be treated as blank / non-record and not write out. Try it

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-19 Thread Vince Coen
Err you have to read this a little closer : leaders of the U.S. office of personal management .. explain So these people experienced it, what exactly ? Knowledge of any form of IT !! ? There again could have down a simple search on Google and believed what they read on the internet and

Re: Article on COBOL's inevitable return

2015-07-29 Thread Vince Coen
I think you will find that was a demand (?) that all applications developed on behalf of the military (well at least the US Navy) had to be in Cobol - if nothing else to help with standards, maintenance migration. You have to remember that there was more than one supplier of mainframes in

Re: 1403 at 60Hz

2015-07-28 Thread Vince Coen
Long time ago but change a switch/plug setting inside via the rear., On 29/07/15 00:23, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote: I wonder if anyone knows what has to change to move a 1403 from 50Hz to 60Hz? If they use synchronous motors, then some belts or gears would be different. For transformers, you

Re: 1403 at 60Hz

2015-07-28 Thread Vince Coen
.. and change settings for 120 to 230/240 volts is the biggest issue frequency is not so serious providing the specific model is dual power etc. Been a very long time since I had to set one up. On 29/07/15 00:23, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote: I wonder if anyone knows what has to change to move

Re: EOJ, literally.

2015-06-29 Thread Vince Coen
Congratulations on your retirement but if like me you get calls for PT work don't refuse! I hit my 50th in 2013 but did work as an weekend operator on IBM 1401 and 7094 along with unit record equipment in 1961 - more money than a paper round :) Still get work but now I can pick and choose

Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Vince Coen
On 11/06/15 20:30, Ken Hume IBM wrote: So, the shoot coordinator goes off and finds three or four young, attractive women that were well dressed and brings them into the computer room. Most of them had no idea what a computer was. All of them complained that the room was to cold and did not want

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
Don't remember the E version but do seem to recall the F one and yes you are right :) On 26/04/15 15:11, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 553cdc80.1040...@gmail.com, on 04/26/2015 at 01:39 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Please advise what else is available and how to do so

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
Please advise what else is available and how to do so. You can reach via vbcoen at gmail . com if needed. On 26/04/15 03:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 55396928.8010...@gmail.com, on 04/23/2015 at 10:50 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Pity the only Cobol compiler

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
. On 26/04/15 17:59, Mike Schwab wrote: The last one would be included in Hercules Turnkey 3 or 4-. On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com wrote: Please advise what else is available and how to do so. On 26/04/15 03:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 55396928.8010

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-24 Thread Vince Coen
17:26, Mike Schwab wrote: GCC handles the differences between Open Systems and CKD disk. Just like z/Linux looks like open system files. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com wrote: Did think of that but .. as GNU Cobol is written for Linux I think migrating over

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Is there an easy way of getting zPDT? and more importantly is it cheap? On 23/04/15 17:37, John McKown wrote: Which may be of interest to those fortunate enough to have a zPDT system http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248205.html?Open Aside: I rather like that I can now get many

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Yep, somewhat out of reach for home use for a retired ex main-framer. Oh, well worse case scenario is just staying with MVS under Hercules, at least it is free and works well under Linux. Pity the only Cobol compiler is ANSI Cobol and I still remember that being a god in the 70's ) It

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Or even MVS which is not. On 23/04/15 21:54, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-04-23 o 21:22, michelbutz pisze: You still need the ADCD's C'mon! Usage of Hercules implies pirated copy of z/OS! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
I have emailed them to see if they do any deals for us who are retired and just bored. On 23/04/15 21:38, Dave Jones wrote: You can purchase a zPDT system from ITC. Go here: http://www.p390.com/updt/ for more details. DJ

Re: OT? BBC video on COBOL

2015-04-10 Thread Vince Coen
Extremely poor, many errors of fact, date info totally wrong. All in all written by someone from a Uni background or has read it from a wiki site that had bad data. Or where I come from 'GIGO'. Vince On 10/04/15 21:00, John McKown wrote:

Setting up a new user for OS/390 and Z/OS

2015-03-25 Thread Vince Coen
Hi; Anyone have the JCL to set up a new user for TSO and other services for both OS/390 and Z/OS. Getting bored using IBMUSER and when trying to use TSO commands to do it have made a bit of a mess as it does not seem to work correctly (this could be me!) and no I do not wish to use the other