Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

W dniu 02.07.2020 o 23:51, Tony Thigpen pisze: I am seeing some DS8000s where a mod-27 is defined as 30051 cylinders. I am seeing other sites were the mod-27 is defined with 32760 cylinders. I know the architectural limit of a mod-27 is 32760 cylinders, but if you work with multiples of mod-1

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > > I consider them while “I consider them experimental while …” -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruc

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

On Jul 2, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Feller, Paul <02fc94e14c43-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > In this shop a MOD-27 is 32,760 cyls and a MOD-54 is 65,520 cyls. As for how > they are allocated, that I can't answer. Several years ago I moved all our DASD to “3390-54” with 65,520 cylinders

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

we do have are 1,177,554 cyls. Thanks.. Paul Feller GTS Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 6:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 a

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

size. There is no architectural limit on a 3390-27, but if you're going to use a size larger than 32760 then it must be an EAV. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

Some physical devices only allocate volumes in multiples of Mod 1s, or gather scattered Mod 1 segments into a full volume. 32K cylinders is 29.4 times a Mod 1 of 1113 cylinders. Not much different, but need to make sure DR site or replacement dasd unit uses same size or larger for restores or rep

What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

I am seeing some DS8000s where a mod-27 is defined as 30051 cylinders. I am seeing other sites were the mod-27 is defined with 32760 cylinders. I know the architectural limit of a mod-27 is 32760 cylinders, but if you work with multiples of mod-1 units, the 30051 number make sense. I also kno

Re: Using Product 'x' to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

ming: Guilty, until proven innocent" John Norgauer 2004 "Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted." John McKown 2015 -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell [mailto:efin...@aol...com] Sent: February 17, 2016 17:24 Subject:

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

On 18 February 2016 at 11:09, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Similar options for FDRPAS and PASVM? Definitely, check the following link: http://www.innovationdp.fdr.com/products/fdrpas/license.cfm In addition to being available from DASD vendors,

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

On 18 February 2016 at 11:09, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Similar options for FDRPAS and PASVM? Definitely, check the following link: http://www.innovationdp.fdr.com/products/fdrpas/license.cfm In addition to being available from DASD vendors,

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

​ ​ On 18 February 2016 at 11:09, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Similar options for FDRPAS and PASVM? Definitely, check the following link: http://www.innovationdp.fdr.com/products/fdrpas/license.cfm In addition to being available from DASD

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Similar options for FDRPAS and PASVM? In a message dated 2/17/2016 4:46:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, st...@stevebeaver.com writes: The lease option for TDMF is $1000 per terabyte -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's ​ On 18 February 2016 at 09:23, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Depending on DASD vendor some would provide TDMF services(software and FTEs) as part of negotiated price. Think there was a lease option too but have

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

​ On 18 February 2016 at 09:23, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Depending on DASD vendor some would provide TDMF services(software and FTEs) as part of negotiated price. Think there was a lease option too but haven't kept up... That’s true and by way of

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Depending on DASD vendor some would provide TDMF services(software and FTEs) as part of negotiated price. Think there was a lease option too but haven't kept up... In a message dated 2/17/2016 2:55:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, ibmm...@computersupervisoryservices.com writes: just a cor

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

just a correction to the reference for using Innovation Data Processing's FDRPAS for migrating z/VM and Linux for System z volumes, the correct Innovation product that handles this is FDRPASVM allowing z/VM systems to stay up and active for the swapping of active z/VM user volumes FDRPASVM ena

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Ok tks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's Yes. It migrat

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's > > Yes, you can use TDMF / FDRPAS / etc, to move a

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's Yes, you can use TDMF / FDRPAS / etc, to move a volume to the same size or larger. After the move is complete TDMF or you run ICKDSF to pick up the new size. The VTOC and VTOCIX are not extended. You should selec

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

ERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's We are facing the need to migrate off 3390-3, and probably some 3390-9 to mod-27's, so I am seeking the

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Mike Schwab Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's Yes, you can use TDMF / FDRPAS / etc, to move a volume to the same size or larger. After the move is complete TDMF or you run ICKDSF to pick

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

I have moved z/VM volumes from z/OS with z/VM shut down. Should apply to z/Linux too. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jasi Grewal wrote: > Thank You Mike , Jerry and Steve for your recommendations and suggestions. We > only have z/VM and zLinux DASD minidisk/fullvolumes left to migrate as I ha

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Thank You Mike , Jerry and Steve for your recommendations and suggestions. We only have z/VM and zLinux DASD minidisk/fullvolumes left to migrate as I have completed all z/OS DASD through DFDSS and we just have to migrate zVM and zLinux minidisks to new targets and hopefully it would be easier.

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

t; and zLinux DASD to newer model 3390-27's from 3390-09. > The other problem is that we don't have that many targets as Source vols so > every MDISK would have to be migrated to consume DASD Space and does TDMF > supports the feature of copying MDISK's from Source to Targe

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

ng fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jasi Grewal Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's Greetings, I would

Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's Greetings, I would like to know, if we can use IBM z/OS TDMF to migrate z/VM and zLinux DASD to newer model 3390-27's from 3390-09. The other problem is that we don't have that

Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Greetings, I would like to know, if we can use IBM z/OS TDMF to migrate z/VM and zLinux DASD to newer model 3390-27's from 3390-09. The other problem is that we don't have that many targets as Source vols so every MDISK would have to be migrated to consume DASD Space and does TDMF su

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

Yeah my new camera uses a 32 GB TF card * * * Has a harness to slide into SD slot. How big was 2319/2314? Matlan would eat it up in one run. In a message dated 11/18/2015 5:23:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, steve.hor...@gmail.com writes: Multiple 65520 volumes just seems

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

What an age we live in, huh? 3339 was the standard when I was growing up (I was witness to a field of RAMAC being replaced with an array in a box in my early days). Multiple 65520 volumes just seems decadent. -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

doslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2015-11-18 o 17:59, Jasi Grewal pisze: Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for 3390-27's because I read different manuals and each of them refers as either 30015 Cyl or 32760Cyl for Mod 27's. Would like to hear your se

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jasi Grewal Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for 3390-

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

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Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

dard Size for 3390-27's? > > Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for > 3390-27's because > I read different manuals and each of them refers as either 30015 Cyl or > 32760Cyl for > Mod 27's. > > Would like to hear your setup of

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? In , on 11/18/2015 at 05:19 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1 Mythical? What are the 3390-A

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

In , on 11/18/2015 at 05:19 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1 Mythical? What are the 3390-A14, 3390-A18, 3390-B14, 3390-B18 and 3390-B1C, chopped liver? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

TSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? > > Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for > 3390-27's because I read different manuals and each of them refers as either > 30015 Cyl or 32760Cyl for Mod 27's. &g

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

In <2695198720367946.wa.jasighotmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/18/2015 at 10:59 AM, Jasi Grewal said: >Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for >3390-27's 3390-27 and 3399-54 are fake model numbers that do not refer to actual drive models. The a

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

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Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jasi Grewal Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for 3390-27's beca

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jasi Grewal Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? Greetings, I would like to know, if ther

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

-432-8144 | www.its.ms.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jasi Grewal Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? Greetings, I would li

Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

Greetings, I would like to know, if there are any standard sizes for 3390-27's because I read different manuals and each of them refers as either 30015 Cyl or 32760Cyl for Mod 27's. Would like to hear your setup of Mod 27's and if you are using 30015 or 32760 Cyl for Mod 27&#x

Re: 3390-27

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:59:28 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote: >> >>IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders >> > That number is spookily close to 2^15. Was it chosen by design > for tolerance of

Re: 3390-27

Thanks for the information - (I feel better now) ...Larry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3390-27 Well

Re: 3390-27

Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an official "3390-27" (or "3390-54") - they are just colloquial terms for large 3390-9s with approximately 3x and 6x capacity. The size of each device can vary depending on the way your disks have been setup in the storage array

Re: 3390-27

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:59:28 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote: > >IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders > That number is spookily close to 2^15. Was it chosen by design for tolerance of code that might malfunction with a negative halfword cylinder number? Has some such

Re: 3390-27

Well, technically speaking, there never was a 3390-27. There was the 3390-1, 3390-2, 3390-3, and 3390-9 as actual physically orderable devices. The 3390-n for other values of "n" usually referred to either a multiplier over the size of a 3390-1, e.g.: a 3390-27 was 27x the number of

Re: 3390-27

o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin, Larry D Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: 3390-27 I just observed the following: IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders Out DS8700 3390-27 disks have 30051 Cylinders Can anyone explain this

3390-27

I just observed the following: IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders Out DS8700 3390-27 disks have 30051 Cylinders Can anyone explain this? Was the DS8700 configured incorrectly? Thanks, .Larry This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince