Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-06-13 03:33, Shane Ginnane pisze: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:21:53 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: I know of at least one new z/OS shop in the last 5 ish years in the US. Yeah, and I'm sure Timothy will pipe up re one or two in Asia. But the ledger is markedly negative - I still contend

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-13 Thread Rob Schramm
Oh sure.. i am sure the listers can tell of lots of instances of being 10+ years into a 3 year plan to be off of the mainframe. Usually because there is actual programming capital that cannot easily be moved/migrated/ reproduced. And then worse is management inability to recognize a mistake.

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-13 Thread Bobbie Justice
I remember when Shands acquired their first mainframe in the 1980s, went through a few upgrades there, then I left in 1995 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-13 Thread Richard Pinion
Most hospitals are jumping on the Epic bandwagon these days. --- 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: From: Bobbie Justice 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another one gone Date: Fri, 13 Jun

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-13 Thread Richard Pinion
That's Epic HIS software, in case you didn't know. And it doesn't run on z! --- rpin...@netscape.com wrote: From: Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another one gone Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:58:30 -0700 Most hospitals

Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Schmutzok, Michael A.
With sadness, I mention that yesterday I brought down Shands HealthCare's mainframe for the final time. IBM will be packing it up this weekend and it will be leaving for good next week. The end of an era for Shands Mike Schmutzok Sr Systems Programmer Shands HealthCare

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Rouse, Willie
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Schmutzok, Michael A. Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Another one gone With sadness, I mention that yesterday I brought down Shands HealthCare's mainframe for the final time

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Richard Pinion
for the server based systems. When we run out of hospitals converting from mainframe based systems, I'll be out of job. --- sch...@shands.ufl.edu wrote: From: Schmutzok, Michael A. sch...@shands.ufl.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Another one gone Date

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Dave Salt
From: rpin...@netscape.com I work for a company that is in the business of taking historical data from hospitals and re-hosting the data on servers. We have re-hosted several hospitals in the four years I have been with this company. Fortunately for me, the company has a baby z10 for

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Itschak Mugzach
not sure. I see here customers that converted many of their mainframe application to package applications like CRM, ERP, etc. Employers are crying and work harder, but management is happy. This is what they count, isn't it? ITschak On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Rob Schramm
Dave, Can you name one US customer that shut down the mainframe (z/OS) and completed a conversion or rehosting.. that has converted back to the mainframe in the last 5 years. Linux and z/VM are excluded.. z/OS only please. Rob Schramm Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Dave Salt
. :-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:48:41 -0400 From: rob.schr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Another one gone To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Dave, Can you name one US customer

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:24:31 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: No I don't know any mainframe shops that have converted and converted back. It was meant to be a joke. But future CEO's have to prove themselves and be seen as doing something, and pendulums tend to swing, so who knows? It would be pretty

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Rob Schramm
I know of at least one new z/OS shop in the last 5 ish years in the US. On Jun 12, 2014 9:00 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:24:31 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: No I don't know any mainframe shops that have converted and converted back. It was meant to be a joke.

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:21:53 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: I know of at least one new z/OS shop in the last 5 ish years in the US. Yeah, and I'm sure Timothy will pipe up re one or two in Asia. But the ledger is markedly negative - I still contend it's all downhill. Everywhere. Shane ...

Re: Another one gone....

2014-06-12 Thread David Crayford
On 13/06/2014 9:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:21:53 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: I know of at least one new z/OS shop in the last 5 ish years in the US. Yeah, and I'm sure Timothy will pipe up re one or two in Asia. Don't you mean Africa? Isn't that the new strategic